Pool C -- 2012

[MonroviaCat]

I am done with you!!!!

We can only hope that this is a promise I guess.

[Bishop#1fan]

Sure is Moron cat.....

[USee]

Bishopfan--

Dude, take some prozac and settle down! You are getting answers, just not answers you seem to want to hear. I guess OWU fans wouldn't have to be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get them!

Let's set aside for a second the fact that Witt lost to a team by 5 that OWU lost to by 28. Witt and OWU are similar based on the criteria. The problem is the criteria ONLY apply to Pool C, not Pool A. You are complaining about Witt v OWU when they are not in the same pools.

HSCoach is speaking about Witt because they actually have a playoff history and have accounted well for themselves. He is a fan of Mt Union and isn't speaking on behalf of the NCAC, NCAA, or OAC.

It's ok to be frustrated your team didn't get selected (believe me, I know the feeling) but try to have a rationale thought in the process and take it up with someone who 1-can help you ( I suggest AA meetings) or 2-actually cares more than HSC (used as a proxy for most posters on here).

Either way, good luck on your journey. Live long and prosper.

[LaCollegeFan]

Mr. Bishop- The bottom line is this- not one single person on this board has any part of deciding the playoffs/tie-breakers. All D3.com and the users on here can do is inform you of the tie-breaker rules and move on. So bashing people on here is doing nothing but waste everyone's time. I understand that you are upset, as i'm sure many other fans just like you are/would be, but getting on this site and demanding answers is a negative reflection of yourself, and frankly of the school you are defending. As stated in the podcast last night, the committee members read the comments us fans put on this site. Ever stop to think maybe they could form a negative opinion about your school? (not saying they would, just offering an opinion). Like i said I get that you are upset, but life is to short to spend it bashing random fans that have no dog in the hunt.

[emma17]

Smed-
I've noticed a pattern in some of your posts in that you are taking on somewhat of a Robbin Hood role.  You fear that student athletes that play on teams from weaker conferences won't get the opportunity to experience playoff football through Pool C as they won't be able to "break through" a sort of self-perpetuating Pool C group.

IMO, the best way for these types of teams to enjoy the playoff experience is to win their weaker conference- get in as an AQ- and then show the D3 world how good they really are. 

[ExTartanPlayer]

Usee,

It's worth noting that the only "bad apples" in the OWU barrel are some of the more recent additions that have come out of the woodwork AFTER the playoff bracket was announced.  Several OWU fans who engaged in dialogue on the NCAC boards all season have been disappointed, but reasonable in their reactions.  This guy and owudad are the only guys who are way out of line.

[USee]

Usee,

It's worth noting that the only "bad apples" in the OWU barrel are some of the more recent additions that have come out of the woodwork AFTER the playoff bracket was announced.  Several OWU fans who engaged in dialogue on the NCAC boards all season have been disappointed, but reasonable in their reactions.  This guy and owudad are the only guys who are way out of line.

I get it. I have been on these boards since inception so have seen them all. I read the NCAC board regularly as well so have a pretty good feel for the wheat and the chaff. 

[WarhawkDad]

Hey Mr. HSCOACH........Witt plays in the same WEAK Conf.!!!!!!.....playing the same WEAK teams AND have a lower SOS than OWU and always get talked about and put on a pedestal?!!!!!...Yes I ask this Friday and got no response and it doesn't suprise me!!!!!!....OWU SOS .511 and WITT .428?!!!!!!...what will the excuse be in the coming years when OWU pees on your Witt parade?!!!!!!.....I'm sure it will be officials or field conditions or we didn't get the right nutrients that day!!!!!....this whole process is a losers joke!!!!....you have a conference that does it 2 diff ways in four regends!!!!......continue to let the moroons run the ship and this is what we get!!!!!

Classic.   

Classically ridiculous.....and I am a WIAC poster!   

[WarhawkDad]

Hey Mr. HSCOACH........Witt plays in the same WEAK Conf.!!!!!!.....playing the same WEAK teams AND have a lower SOS than OWU and always get talked about and put on a pedestal?!!!!!...Yes I ask this Friday and got no response and it doesn't suprise me!!!!!!....OWU SOS .511 and WITT .428?!!!!!!...what will the excuse be in the coming years when OWU pees on your Witt parade?!!!!!!.....I'm sure it will be officials or field conditions or we didn't get the right nutrients that day!!!!!....this whole process is a losers joke!!!!....you have a conference that does it 2 diff ways in four regends!!!!......continue to let the moroons run the ship and this is what we get!!!!!

Bish- I appreciate your gusto.

I think he drank all the gusto in Oshkosh before he posted....     

[Bishop#1fan]

usee....what do u determine as history?....and I would like to clarify in order not to sound stupid (not being sarcastic)....Is it school history from then till now or overall apperances by the school....could you clarify that for me please?

[WarhawkDad]

Bishop #1Fan

You are obviously a relative newcomer.  Take some time, go back and read the boards.  Learn from posts by people that have  5 or 6 or more stars next to their screenname.   They have been around D3 a long time.   The pairings are never perceived as being fair to everyone.  Two years ago, UWW the reigning national champion went undefeated and did not get a number one seed and had to travel for the quarter finals and semi-finals.   It happens.  Don't take your frustrations out on other posters who are more knowledgeable than you just because you don't like the answer.  Learn from it.......
WarhawkDad

[Bishop#1fan]

LaCollegeFan....I appriciated the constructive advise and I accept....It is frustrating to see a struggling program put in hard work and dedication and kinda just get looked over. Then when questions r asked and you get 3-4 diff answers and u prove them false...it gets frustrating as heck....and I wasn't here bashing these people right off the bat...I guess I am not one to sit back and just take crap. I apologize to whomever I offended meaninglessly....and never would I want to give the program a bad name or face.

[USee]

I can't speak for HSC (though I will), I am pretty sure he is remembering Witt's appearance in the playoffs in 2009 when they won their first 2 rounds and gave UWW possibly their stiffest test of the season en route to a national title. Those kind of games in the post season give teams their reputation. Two other examples would be North Central in 2010. UWW fans remember them as their toughest game. And Wheaton in 2008 who was the last pool C taken and made it to the semifinals, winning on the road @ Trine, @Wabash, @Franklin. (In fact Wheaton has never lost a 1st round game in the post season and has only lost 1x to a team other than Mt Union). It's these types of performances that end up lasting in people's minds. Witt created that in the post season. I say people which means Fans. It does not, in any way, mean coaches or administrators involved in the selection process. You have to remember that HSC is also an ex-Olineman so he has had his head bashed a few too many times. LOL.

[USee]

Bishop #1Fan

You are obviously a relative newcomer.  Take some time, go back and read the boards.  Learn from posts by people that have  5 or 6 or more stars next to their screenname.   They have been around D3 a long time.   The pairings are never perceived as being fair to everyone.  Two years ago, UWW the reigning national champion went undefeated and did not get a number one seed and had to travel for the quarter finals and semi-finals.   It happens.  Don't take your frustrations out on other posters who are more knowledgeable than you just because you don't like the answer.  Learn from it.......
WarhawkDad

WHD,

I am deeply offended by the omission. Since I only have 3 stars (like you) are our opinions meaningless. And to think all along I have been adding value........there's no place like home, there's no place like home....

[pg04]

Bishop #1Fan

You are obviously a relative newcomer.  Take some time, go back and read the boards.  Learn from posts by people that have  5 or 6 or more stars next to their screenname.   They have been around D3 a long time.   The pairings are never perceived as being fair to everyone.  Two years ago, UWW the reigning national champion went undefeated and did not get a number one seed and had to travel for the quarter finals and semi-finals.   It happens.  Don't take your frustrations out on other posters who are more knowledgeable than you just because you don't like the answer.  Learn from it.......
WarhawkDad

WHD,

I am deeply offended by the omission. Since I only have 3 stars (like you) are our opinions meaningless. And to think all along I have been adding value........there's no place like home, there's no place like home....

It just means each of your posts are worth more than those of us with a large number of posts.