Regional Realignment

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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: deiscanton on January 24, 2020, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2020, 03:13:20 PM
No... the entire topic and how the commissioners voted ...

I am just going on what Dave reported last night on Hoopsville.  I do not have the minutes of yesterday's meeting from the convention.  When the NCAA posts them, I will review it.  Anything else I wrote on the subject is just my speculative analysis, which is subject to change as more exact details come in.

Me and my big mouth...😕

I'm just having a little fun ... I worked hard to break a story on the show last night ... having a little love doesn't hurt. :)
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deiscanton

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2020, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on January 24, 2020, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2020, 03:13:20 PM
No... the entire topic and how the commissioners voted ...

I am just going on what Dave reported last night on Hoopsville.  I do not have the minutes of yesterday's meeting from the convention.  When the NCAA posts them, I will review it.  Anything else I wrote on the subject is just my speculative analysis, which is subject to change as more exact details come in.

Me and my big mouth...😕

I'm just having a little fun ... I worked hard to break a story on the show last night ... having a little love doesn't hurt. :)

All credit to you, Dave... :)

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

As we continue to follow this, the Regional Expansion has been approved by the Championships Committee. The last step will be the Management's Council: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/proposal-would-affect-when-schools-count-toward-automatic-qualification-waiting-period

We will talk in-depth about this on a Hoopsville show soon - likely Sunday night.
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There is just one week left in the regular season and with it comes conference chaos.

Some conference tournaments are already underway and have seen upsets. It will be the theme of the week. With conference tournaments come upsets. Those upsets will cause teams on the NCAA tournament bubble to have their hopes burst. And there will be some Cinderellas who will capture the headlines.

Could it be any more fun?

Sunday on Hoopsville (starting at a special earlier time) we chat with a few programs who are either looking to avoid the conference chaos or be a part of it.

Plus, there is changes coming to the way we look at the current regional structure. How the process started and flowed for the last 18 or more months. And what you can expect it all to look in the future.

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KnightSlappy

I really enjoyed the conversation with Brad Bankston. He couldn't -- and didn't -- give away any details, but he did make it sound like they were trying to pair up the Texas schools with the West Coast schools. If that happens it would look like this:

Region X: 39 Teams
NWC: 9
SCIAC: 9
SCAC: 8
ASC: 12
UC Santa Cruz: 1

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


I mentioned on the show I did a quick pass at ten regions.  This is really a first draft with lots of issues, but I think it shows some of the interesting issues that come with this.  Note: I went straight conferences, so if they decide to split some of the more geographically spread leagues, it'll obviously look different.

Region 1 (46)
NESCAC – 11
LEC – 9
MASCAC – 7
NECC – 7
SKY - 12

Region 2 (46)
NEWMAC – 8
CCC – 9
GNAC – 12
NAC – 8
CUNYAC - 9

Region 3 (39)
SUNYAC – 10
E8 – 8
LL – 10
AMCC – 11

Region 4 (45)
NJAC – 10
AEC - 7
CSAC – 8
LAND – 8
NEAC - 12

Region 5 (42)
Centennial - 10
MACF – 8
MACC – 9
CAC – 6
PrAC - 9

Region 6 (38)
NCAC – 10
OAC – 10
MIAA - 8
HCAC - 10

Region 7 (38)
CCIW – 9
ARC – 9
SLIAC – 10
MWC – 10

Region 8 (40)
WIAC – 8
MIAC – 11
UMAC – 9
NACC - 12

Region 9 (46)
USAC – 13
SAA – 8
UAA – 8
ODAC - 13

Region 10 (40)
ASC – 12
SCIAC – 9
NWC – 9
SCAC - 10
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


I'd love to see the NESCAC and SUNYAC in the same region, but I don't know if they're going to be that ambitious.
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WUPHF

#67
OK, so I have not paid much attention to this...

The UAA goes from having teams in multiple regions to every team being in one region?

KnightSlappy

Ryan, your alignment is quite good. Better than the one I tweeted out when we first heard of the realignment possibilities.
Some things I've come up with that you also hit:

1. NESCAC and NEWMAC need to be in different regions.
2. ARC/MIAC/WIAC/CCIW -- can't have three in one region (I originally did and it looks bad)
3. MIAA/OAC/NCAC/HCAC will be a region unless they don't keep Texas and West Coast paired.

Regions 6-10 lay out rather logically with few choices to make. Regions 1-5 are all mixed and can be balanced by competitiveness however one wants.

I'm guessing they'll keep the UAA split into geographical regions as they do now.

CNU85

I'm assuming the new look CAC/ACAA will also be split into diff regions??

thebear

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 24, 2020, 12:43:16 PM

I'd love to see the NESCAC and SUNYAC in the same region, but I don't know if they're going to be that ambitious.

That Region would spread from Waterville Maine to Fredonia, NY. About 700 miles.
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thebear

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Not the biggest, for sure.

Yes, but the roads in a lot of that area aren't the best, esp in the winter.
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SpringSt7

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2020, 12:48:58 PM

1. NESCAC and NEWMAC need to be in different regions.


I haven't been paying all that close attention to this, but would that reason be because of competitiveness?

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Quote from: SpringSt7 on February 24, 2020, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2020, 12:48:58 PM

1. NESCAC and NEWMAC need to be in different regions.


I haven't been paying all that close attention to this, but would that reason be because of competitiveness?

Yes. Brad Bankston talked about that being part of the mentality when splitting up the regions. He didn't specifically say what conferences were going where, but feel free to listen to the interview we had with him linked prior. It is a pretty good, in-depth explanation of the process this all took.
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