Rank the Mideast Region

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wooscotsfan

Wooster wins their Regional today by knocking off CWRU twice!  :)

Congrats to the Scots who rebounded from the opening 2-1 loss to Rochester on Friday by winning 4 games in a row to advance to the super-regional.

Wooster beat Otterbein 13-3 yesterday, also got revenge against Rochester 21-4 yesterday and today they advanced with 8-7 and 9-3 wins over CWRU.  Impressive performance today in the second game by Wooster senior Chandler Dippman who threw a complete game against CWRU and all this after throwing 45 pitches yesterday against Rochester before Coach Pettorini wisely pulled him with the big lead and that game essentially won.

Great to see Wooster rally in Coach Pettorini's last season to advance in the NCAA tourney.  I think the Scots proved that they belong in this tourney!  ;)

Good luck to Wooster, now 30-13, in the super-regional next weekend against Heidelberg who won the Adrian regional.

Ohio Baller

Quote from: old scot on May 17, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
Jim Dixon and Jack Parkman. Kudo's to you. Don't think Woo was worthy of a bid. Time will tell.
How does all that Crow taste Old (you lose the Scot name).  To not even list WOOSTER as a bubble team?  Latest example of an axe to grind against the Scots and how little credibility you have in this space.  Good luck with your super regional picks, make sure to spell Heidelberg correctly.

Pops33

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Congrats to the Fighting Scots definitely proving that they belonged!  Good coaching moves during the games on Saturday to get Faxon and Dippman out of the game early realizing that they could be needed on Sunday.  It was all made possible by the Scot offense which broke out early and often in both of Saturday's games.  The offense also showed up Sunday getting the Scots an early lead in both games.  Both Dippman and Faxon pitched fantastic on Sunday as well to secure the Regional title.

The series against Heidelberg should be a good one. 

old scot

Baller, Thinking you are part of the team. No need to insult those who questioned the Scots bid. They did not have a great regular season and losing 2 against Denison in the NCAC finials did nothing to prove they where dominate. Otherwise, congrats to coming back from the losers bracket ( or should I say the non winners bracket to be politically correct ). Did not think Woo had it in them. They showed they have some moxie.

Still have a ways to go to get to the WS and do some damage.

By the way, I like my crow with hot sauce. Go Scots

Ohio Baller

The disrespect for failing to even mention Wooster in the projection is not an isolated incident Old.  Not part of the team just think it's a cheap shot to discredit this team's season/bid as some sort of lifetime achievement. 

old scot

Well ,they earned it. HOPE THEY CAN KEEP IT GOING.

Dr. Acula

Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
The disrespect for failing to even mention Wooster in the projection is not an isolated incident Old.  Not part of the team just think it's a cheap shot to discredit this team's season/bid as some sort of lifetime achievement.

Not an isolated incident by Old Scot or the D3 staff that did the projection?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 19, 2019, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 17, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
Jim Dixon and Jack Parkman. Kudo's to you. Don't think Woo was worthy of a bid. Time will tell.
How does all that Crow taste Old (you lose the Scot name).  To not even list WOOSTER as a bubble team?  Latest example of an axe to grind against the Scots and how little credibility you have in this space.  Good luck with your super regional picks, make sure to spell Heidelberg correctly.
For newbies on the message boards, Jim and his mock selection committee try to figure who the at-large bids will be, using the criteria in the Handbook.

https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/2018-19D3MBA_PreChampsManual.pdf

However, the mock selection committee does not have the final regional rankings.

Some factors that would impact their thinking for awarding a Pool C bid would be:

Wooster was the 4th Pool C candidate in the 3rd regional rankings, behind Heidelberg, Baldwin-Wallace and CWRU. It is pretty uncommon for 25% of the Pool C bids to come from a region, outside New England, which has 20% of the teams in D3.
I am sure that Baldwin-Wallace had Wooster blocked from consideration (in the 3rd regional rankings that were available at the time of the mock selection) and Wooster was not "on the table".
Wooster went only 5-4 in the games in the final 25% of the season. (38 games to that point.) That is one of the criteria.
Did Franklin move into the Final Regional Ranking, knocking Wabash out?  If so, there were 3 Regional Ranked wins for Wooster erased from the crtieria.

Ohio Baller

Well it could not have occurred to the mock committee that B-W going 0-2 at home in its conference tourney might influence the real committee to move WOOSTER ahead of them?  Or Wooster's better overal record, maybe even the SOS (see handbook)?  My issue is not that you missed WOOSTER it's that the preseason #1, CWS participant from last year doesn't even get mentioned ( or even in the "bubble poll").  The CWRU, BW and Wooster proved they belonged.  Now about the Berg hosting the Super ...

Billy Chapel

Didn't get to see any of the BW or Franklin games in their regionals but it seems they represented well! Always great to see ME teams go outside of region and perform the way they did.

mr_b

Quote from: Billy Chapel on May 20, 2019, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't get to see any of the BW or Franklin games in their regionals but it seems they represented well! Always great to see ME teams go outside of region and perform the way they did.
I watched some of the BW-Concordia games on video and was impressed by how well the Yellow Jackets played.  They were very solid in all the fundamentals.  They gave Concordia Chicago -- another very good team that our team (North Park U) plays almost every year -- all they could handle and were a couple of plays away from moving on to the super regionals.

Dr. Acula

Quote from: mr_b on May 21, 2019, 08:37:43 AM
Quote from: Billy Chapel on May 20, 2019, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't get to see any of the BW or Franklin games in their regionals but it seems they represented well! Always great to see ME teams go outside of region and perform the way they did.
I watched some of the BW-Concordia games on video and was impressed by how well the Yellow Jackets played.  They were very solid in all the fundamentals.  They gave Concordia Chicago -- another very good team that our team (North Park U) plays almost every year -- all they could handle and were a couple of plays away from moving on to the super regionals.

I watched their games.  BW played well.  That 10th inning loss stings because they just didn't execute and it cost them the game.  You walk the lead off guy in a tie game.  Get a strike out.  Then get a guy to roll one over to SS.  Unfortunately it wasn't hit very well and the SS didn't charge it hard and the kid just beat the throw to first.  That hurts getting the winning RISP on a routine grounder that you field cleanly.  Next guy hits a can of corn to RF.  Should have been in the dugout.  Instead pinch hitter lines a single over SS and it's over.  Very exciting game.  BW just came out on the wrong end this time.     

Jim Dixon

Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Well it could not have occurred to the mock committee that B-W going 0-2 at home in its conference tourney might influence the real committee to move WOOSTER ahead of them?  Or Wooster's better overal record, maybe even the SOS (see handbook)?  My issue is not that you missed WOOSTER it's that the preseason #1, CWS participant from last year doesn't even get mentioned ( or even in the "bubble poll").  The CWRU, BW and Wooster proved they belonged.  Now about the Berg hosting the Super ...


I dont quite recall why we had Wooster beneath Baldwin Wallace but with the final rankings have Wooster ahead of BW. Had we had Wooster that high in the regional rankings, I am sure they would have been selected by us.

About the poll, although we have have an unlimited number of options, it fits well in the space with four options and if you had BW in the poll, you would be looking for teams in other regions to make it more nationally focused.

Also rankings are not a selection criteria nor is their performance in the previous season. Nor is the expectation of success in the upcoming regional - I am sure there are other schools that would have done well if given the chance but I am not given the decision of not going to a full 64 team field :)

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Well it could not have occurred to the mock committee that B-W going 0-2 at home in its conference tourney might influence the real committee to move WOOSTER ahead of them?  Or Wooster's better overal record, maybe even the SOS (see handbook)?  My issue is not that you missed WOOSTER it's that the preseason #1, CWS participant from last year doesn't even get mentioned ( or even in the "bubble poll").  The CWRU, BW and Wooster proved they belonged. 

Yep, it occurred to us but we chose not to make that change.


Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM

Now about the Berg hosting the Super ...

They were ranked higher in the regional rankings:
https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/regional-rankings-final
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Dr. Acula

Berg takes the opener 8-5.  This is gonna be an exciting super regional.  Both teams can hit and TBH I question if either staff can bottle the opposition up.