IIAC 2013

KICKIN95 · November 02, 2013, 06:00:19 PM

Luther v Central match was quite chippy towards the end. Luther keeper saves not 1 but 2 PK's in the 2nd half to hold on for a 1-0 win. Luther could have added a security goal with a PK of their own at the 88:30 mark, but hit it over the crossbar. When is the last time teams were 0-3 on PK's in a match?

Puerco Espin · November 03, 2013, 01:08:49 AM

Wow. Two PK saves?? Yikes. Wonder if it was a ref who was quick on the whistle or if the fouls were legit.

KICKIN95 · November 03, 2013, 01:32:12 PM

They looked legit

Durantula · November 03, 2013, 07:17:52 PM

Who is the most game changing forward in the IIAC?

midfielder?

Defender?

KICKIN95 · November 03, 2013, 08:44:12 PM

Quote from: Durantula on November 03, 2013, 07:17:52 PM
Who is the most game changing forward in the IIAC?

midfielder?

Defender?

Forward would have to be either White from Simpson or Nadeau from Wartburg

Midfielder is The DuHawks Kevin Cavers without a doubt, he didn't have near as many goals as last season, but just his poise and presence on the pitch is enough to change any match. You don't see his kind of vision and play making ability in DIII very often.

Defender is also The DuHawks Dan Figura, he is as calm and level headed a sweeper as you will find. He can keep any offensive player contained and rarely makes mistakes.

Durantula · November 03, 2013, 11:42:22 PM

I agree with most of those-- however I was at the Wartburg/Loras game and it seemed like the Wartburg forwards caused Figura to make some key mistakes--much more than Bob Brown from Wartburg so I think Loras will have to beat Wartburg to make Figura the obvious pick. Also I think Luther has a pretty good outside back even though he's not in as important of a position...

Cheesehead Henry · November 04, 2013, 10:07:39 PM

How about in terms of Goalkeepers?

KICKIN95 · November 04, 2013, 10:17:22 PM

Milkent from Loras has the best GAA .55 and the least goals allowed 10, least saves 47, and most shutouts with 10.

Cheesehead Henry · November 04, 2013, 10:59:25 PM

While agree Milkent is a capable GK, I would argue against him as the top of the IACC. His stats reflect a strong back line that holds off a lot of attackers, and (as live feeds have shown me) he doesn't take his own goal kicks. Call me old fashioned but if Loras is a top 25 team, #4 last year I believe, their GK should be able to take his own goal kicks.

GKs from Luther have shown talent, however are way too inconsistent to show much, adding to the fact that they switch time which doen't let them gain any momentum or confidence. Wartburg's Shatzer has played extremely well and reliable. Simpson's GK has put together a great record on a team that continues to slowly teeter between average and good.

In summary I'd say the GK position in the IACC is the most up in the air.

Puerco Espin · November 05, 2013, 08:51:19 AM

This sounds like the same discussion that was held last year regarding Milkent. I get it, the Loras marking backs do a great job at not allowing shots through, but at what point does the keeper get credit for doing what he does best?

In Conference Stat Lines
Shatzer / 7 GP / 640:44 / 4 GA / 28 Saves
Milkent / 7 GP / 559:02 / 4 GA / 14 Saves
Aronow / 4 GP / 346:34 / 2 GA / 10 Saves

Do I think Milkent is the best GK in the conference? No doubt. But more than likely, I feel it'll end up in Shatzer's hands.

Last year, Milkent was 1st Team All-Conference with this stat line:

6 GP / 495:00 / 0 GA / 9 Saves

9 Saves? Yowzahs!!!!!

KICKIN95 · November 05, 2013, 10:34:51 AM

Quote from: Cheesehead Henry on November 04, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
While agree Milkent is a capable GK, I would argue against him as the top of the IACC. His stats reflect a strong back line that holds off a lot of attackers, and (as live feeds have shown me) he doesn't take his own goal kicks. Call me old fashioned but if Loras is a top 25 team, #4 last year I believe, their GK should be able to take his own goal kicks.

GKs from Luther have shown talent, however are way too inconsistent to show much, adding to the fact that they switch time which doen't let them gain any momentum or confidence. Wartburg's Shatzer has played extremely well and reliable. Simpson's GK has put together a great record on a team that continues to slowly teeter between average and good.

In summary I'd say the GK position in the IACC is the most up in the air.

Milkent is more than capable of taking his own goal kicks, the reason he doesn't is more a coaching and position decision. Figura plays a true sweeper position and Loras is never worried about an offsides trap so why not have your sweeper take the kick. It doesn't hurt that Figura can bomb the ball, but that isn't the deciding factor in the equation. Oh, and Loras finished as the #2 team last season even though they didn't make the final match, that's how close Loras and Messiah played their match and how absolutely horrid Ohio Northern was in the Championship match.

Ambush004 · November 05, 2013, 10:54:12 AM

Shatzer would be the 3rd string keeper at Loras without question.

Madhatter5 · November 05, 2013, 11:03:21 AM

Ruling a goalie out of a top spot because he doesn't take goal kicks is a ridiculous statement. What does the ability of kicking a ball as hard and far as you can show when talking talent? Or strategy?

Whenever talking about goalies I always bring up the fact that you don't need or want a goalie who can make a lot of saves you need/want a goalie who can make a few great saves a game when it is needed and when the offense breaks down the defense. Shatzer and Milkent have the same amount of GA. Shatzer has more saves but how many of those were big time saves and how many of those were dribblers that a 3 year old could have saved? The stats don't tell you that. You have to go by GP and GA to separate goalies and if they are tied in that categry then you should look at Multi-goal games. In which case Shatzer has 0 and Milkent has 1 so I think it falls to Shatzer as the top goalie during league play.

Cheesehead Henry · November 05, 2013, 01:05:04 PM

Quote from: Ambush004 on November 05, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Shatzer would be the 3rd string keeper at Loras without question.

How so? I respect Milkent enough to say that if Shatzer was at Loras, it would definitely be enough of a battle for those two to contend for the starting spot. But to say Shatzer would be 3rd string "without question" is a little far fetched. If the NCAA website is correct, Wartburg got as high as 9th in the nation this year under Shatzer. They had 11 straight wins in a schedule that has a strength unmatched by most in the nation. The starter at Wartburg going to "3rd string at Loras without a question" seems like a bit of an exaggeration.

Just my thoughts.

Cheesehead Henry · November 05, 2013, 01:10:36 PM

Also, I was not able to see much of the Simpson/Loras game, or the Luther/Loras game at the Rock Bowl. Obviously both games were pure domination for Loras, but how did the GKs perform for Simpson and Luther? 3 goals for Loras in both games is impressive. Did the GKs show talent worth looking into? From previous posts it looks like you guys have taken some interest in the Shatzer Milkent debate but neglected the others. Do they possess talent worth debating?

-Henry