Pool C -- 2013

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hazzben

Quote from: MasterJedi on November 14, 2013, 10:42:50 AM
Quote from: hazzben on November 14, 2013, 10:29:56 AM
^^ And to get way ahead of ourselves, the team that gets the 1 spot in the final West Ranking would be in a better position to host a semifinal game should they win their region. Not a lock, but I think the team that gets slotted 2 and then seeded 1 is probably the lowest 1 seed in the bracket.

Wouldn't mind a road trip to Bethel! And a win.  ;)  ;D

And I wouldn't mind a Whitewater road trip and Bethel win  ;)

But my preference is to see two West region teams make the Stagg Bowl. That would be fun to see, at least from where I sit! Some mix of Linfield, Bethel, UWW or UWO/UWP. Obvious preference for Bethel, but barring that, an All West final would be awesome!

smedindy

This is where I'm torn.

I really don't like the whining about, "Well, we have to play X and Y early and..." since you had to beat X and Y anyway to win the title. Admittedly, it's worse in the NCAA D-1 hoops land, where the commentators who slurp the BCS conferences complain about tough matchups for the 4th place teams in the Big 12. But part of me doesn't like the fact that X has to play Y so early. Play early, play late - you still have to beat them.

HOWEVER...there really shouldn't be any rematches in the first week. And the NCAA should actually follow a reasonable facsimile of seeding so you don't have the third and fourth best team in the region playing in week one just because they're close and no one else can get there without a flight.

Instead of spending time disqualifying cross country runners for participating in a fun run for charity, the NCAA should cough up some dough to fix the travel for the best football tournament in the land!
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HScoach

Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX and continually get screwed in the first round.
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02 Warhawk

Any word if there's going to be some sort of selection show (ESPNU? ESPN3? ect..). As well as a time on sunday?

wesleydad

Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX and continually get screwed in the first round.

Agreed.  Have gotten to see Hobart and Linfield in the last couple of years which has made for interesting match ups earlier than the quarters or semis.  It is tough on the CA and TX teams.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX and continually get screwed in the first round.

More specifcally the Pool C rep out in CA, or the SCIAC Pool A winner...one of those two schools is a safe bet to open up in Linfield each playoff.

Past four seasons:
2012: Pacific Lutheran
2011-2009: Cal Lutheran

wally_wabash

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Any word if there's going to be some sort of selection show (ESPNU? ESPN3? ect..). As well as a time on sunday?

Not on a network I'm fairly sure.  The NCAA is streaming the selection show at 6pm ET Sunday from ncaa.com. 
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 14, 2013, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Any word if there's going to be some sort of selection show (ESPNU? ESPN3? ect..). As well as a time on sunday?

Not on a network I'm fairly sure.  The NCAA is streaming the selection show at 6pm ET Sunday from ncaa.com.

I figured as much. Thanks!

MonroviaCat

#278
Quote from: wesleydad on November 14, 2013, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX, Washington, Oregon and continually get screwed in the first round.

Agreed.  Have gotten to see Hobart and Linfield in the last couple of years which has made for interesting match ups earlier than the quarters or semis.  It is tough on the CA and TX teams.
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And yes--I consider having a first round (even at home game)  against a team you've already played that season getting screwed (at least from a fan's perspective).
Go Cats!

MonroviaCat

#279
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX and continually get screwed in the first round.

More specifcally the Pool C rep out in CA, or the SCIAC Pool A winner...one of those two schools is a safe bet to open up in Linfield each playoff.

Past four seasons:
2012: Pacific Lutheran
2011-2009: Cal Lutheran
FWIW--PLU is from Washington. :)
Go Cats!

middlerelief

Pool Cs =. PAC Lutheran, UW-Oshkosh, IL-Wes, Wanash and MUC (or John Carrol, I think JC has a real chance though )

That's it -- that's the list

Notables that are probably good enough to be there be but just not enough slots: SJF, STU, Platteville, and Concordia

Team that wi be there buy shouldn't: Wesley



AO

Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 14, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX and continually get screwed in the first round.

More specifcally the Pool C rep out in CA, or the SCIAC Pool A winner...one of those two schools is a safe bet to open up in Linfield each playoff.

Past four seasons:
2012: Pacific Lutheran
2011-2009: Cal Lutheran
FWIW--PLU is from Washington. :)
There was Cal Lu, they were from Phoenix; Pacific Lutheran, they were from Detroit.  Texas Lutheran, well I don't remember where Tex come from.

wally_wabash

Quote from: middlerelief on November 14, 2013, 02:11:57 PM
Pool Cs =. PAC Lutheran, UW-Oshkosh, IL-Wes, Wanash and MUC (or John Carrol, I think JC has a real chance though )

That's it -- that's the list

Notables that are probably good enough to be there be but just not enough slots: SJF, STU, Platteville, and Concordia

Team that wi be there buy shouldn't: Wesley

Wanash Always Fights   :)
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 14, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 14, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Not that it has anything to do with Pool C, but the discussion of Bethel vs Whitewater in the West got me thinking.   The recent NCAA shifting of teams between regions (ala Mount to the east and UWW to the north) has made for a much more balanced bracket over what we saw a decade + ago.   Which I think is a factor in making the semi-finals seem more competitive recently too.   I also like the ability to see new teams in the early rounds instead of the same regional teams year after year.   As a follower of a north region team that is within driving distance to most of D3, I'm glad we're not on an island like CA or TX and continually get screwed in the first round.

More specifcally the Pool C rep out in CA, or the SCIAC Pool A winner...one of those two schools is a safe bet to open up in Linfield each playoff.

Past four seasons:
2012: Pacific Lutheran
2011-2009: Cal Lutheran
FWIW--PLU is from Washington. :)

I'm sure you consider WI and MN the same out here.  ;D

smedindy

Quote from: middlerelief on November 14, 2013, 02:11:57 PM


Team that wi be there buy shouldn't: Wesley

Wesley is buying their "B" bid? Certainly Wash U. has more money - they can probably out bid them!

Wabash Always Fights!