Pool C -- 2013

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middlerelief

Ok, scores are in,  here's going to be the Pool C Bids!

John Carroll
UW-Platteville
Pacific
Wabash
Ill-Wesleyan


That leaves 3 Saints on the outside looking in: a 9-1 Thomas More (W&J gets AQ I believe) and 2 solid 8-2 teams in St. Thomas and St. John Fisher

I do not agree with the concept that the highest non-AQ team in the "Regionally Rankings" gets a nod. I was under the impression that "regionalizing" the brackets came to an end a few years ago. Instead of an East, West, North South they have just given the top seed to the highest ranked teams period. 


smedindy

The BRACKETS are not really regionally motivated (much) but the selections are still made by taking one region against the others.

Pacific? Even if they upset Linfield they won't jump PLU.
Wabash Always Fights!

02 Warhawk

Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
Ok, scores are in,  here's going to be the Pool C Bids!

John Carroll
UW-Platteville
Pacific
Wabash
Ill-Wesleyan


That leaves 3 Saints on the outside looking in: a 9-1 Thomas More (W&J gets AQ I believe) and 2 solid 8-2 teams in St. Thomas and St. John Fisher

I do not agree with the concept that the highest non-AQ team in the "Regionally Rankings" gets a nod. I was under the impression that "regionalizing" the brackets came to an end a few years ago. Instead of an East, West, North South they have just given the top seed to the highest ranked teams period.

I would add UW-Oshkosh as a solid 8-2 team. Only losses where to two playoff teams.

smedindy

#318
Heidelberg is a solid 8-2 team as well. Lots of good two loss teams packing their equipment.

But he said three SAINTS, Oshkosh isn't a Saint... ;)
Wabash Always Fights!

TitanPride

Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
Ok, scores are in,  here's going to be the Pool C Bids!

John Carroll
UW-Platteville
Pacific
Wabash
Ill-Wesleyan


That leaves 3 Saints on the outside looking in: a 9-1 Thomas More (W&J gets AQ I believe) and 2 solid 8-2 teams in St. Thomas and St. John Fisher

I do not agree with the concept that the highest non-AQ team in the "Regionally Rankings" gets a nod. I was under the impression that "regionalizing" the brackets came to an end a few years ago. Instead of an East, West, North South they have just given the top seed to the highest ranked teams period.

Perhaps he means Pac Lutheran?

middlerelief

Quote from: TitanPride on November 16, 2013, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
Ok, scores are in,  here's going to be the Pool C Bids!

John Carroll
UW-Platteville
Pacific
Wabash
Ill-Wesleyan


That leaves 3 Saints on the outside looking in: a 9-1 Thomas More (W&J gets AQ I believe) and 2 solid 8-2 teams in St. Thomas and St. John Fisher

I do not agree with the concept that the highest non-AQ team in the "Regionally Rankings" gets a nod. I was under the impression that "regionalizing" the brackets came to an end a few years ago. Instead of an East, West, North South they have just given the top seed to the highest ranked teams period.

Perhaps he means Pac Lutheran?

Yes I did mean Pac Lutheran my bad.  sorry about that.

USee

Wheaton's only losses are to #4 and #14 who are both playoff teams. Also holds a win over a playoff team, Albion.  Ain't gonna happen for the two lossers.

smedindy

The only one I can see if SJF, since their SOS is miles above any one else's that will be on the board with them. The only rankings that matter are regional rankings, too, so it will be interesting to see if the crash and burn of many of the East's RR teams help SJF at all.
Wabash Always Fights!

art76

Bethel now leads UW Whitewater as unbeaten teams by 39 teams in the SOS Rankings. All the scores are not in yet so there may be some more motion, but I think Bethel will have the best in the country this year.
You don't have a soul. You are a soul.
You have a body. - C.S. Lewis

middlerelief

Quote from: art76 on November 16, 2013, 06:30:24 PM
Bethel now leads UW Whitewater as unbeaten teams by 39 teams in the SOS Rankings. All the scores are not in yet so there may be some more motion, but I think Bethel will have the best in the country this year.

Based on 2013 results -- you could make a very strong case that Bethel should be the #1 ranked team in the country headed into the playoffs. I understand the whole you're the Champ until someone beats, and obviously it'll get sorted out over the next 5 weeks, but Bethel should be #1, followed by UWW.  I don't buy MHB's ranking year in and year out. Should be great tourney this year, MUC played three ranked teams, all of them gave them a pretty strong challenge compared to prior years.

BashDad

No. To all of that. No.

middlerelief

Quote from: smedindy on November 16, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
The only one I can see if SJF, since their SOS is miles above any one else's that will be on the board with them. The only rankings that matter are regional rankings, too, so it will be interesting to see if the crash and burn of many of the East's RR teams help SJF at all.

where can I see strength of schedule?

smedindy

I cannot see the West jumping Bethel over UW-W in their RRs. I think the first seeds are all but sewn up. MUC, Bethel, UW-W and UMHB.

SOS is here: http://www.d3football.com/seasons/2013/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
Wabash Always Fights!

Toby Taff

Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2013, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: art76 on November 16, 2013, 06:30:24 PM
Bethel now leads UW Whitewater as unbeaten teams by 39 teams in the SOS Rankings. All the scores are not in yet so there may be some more motion, but I think Bethel will have the best in the country this year.

I don't buy MHB's ranking year in and year out. Should be great tourney this year, MUC played three ranked teams, all of them gave them a pretty strong challenge compared to prior years.
I'm curious as to why?
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

art76

Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2013, 06:44:55 PM
Quote from: smedindy on November 16, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
The only one I can see if SJF, since their SOS is miles above any one else's that will be on the board with them. The only rankings that matter are regional rankings, too, so it will be interesting to see if the crash and burn of many of the East's RR teams help SJF at all.

where can I see strength of schedule?

http://www.d3football.com/seasons/2013/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
You don't have a soul. You are a soul.
You have a body. - C.S. Lewis