West Regional Rankings

[02 Warhawk]

Looking at the SOS this morning, and I see Bethel dropped about a dozen spots after playing a 1-8 St. Olaf team. The same is going to happen to Whitewater next week after they play winnless UWRF squad. .

UWP and UWO will both get a big boost from playing each next week.

[MonroviaCat]

Looking at the SOS this morning, and I see Bethel dropped about a dozen spots after playing a 1-8 St. Olaf team. The same is going to happen to Whitewater next week after they play winnless UWRF squad. .

UWP and UWO will both get a big boost from playing each next week.

yes. but one of them will also get a loss. 

[MacQuiz]

Keeping things straight can sometimes be a challenge.  That being said....let's have a fluid half paying attention look at the AFCA poll.  What's real and and what's just a shot off the cuff of ...
D. Puget Sound (Calif.), 79-3.  I'd bet that UPS would have issue with thier current AFCA California address.

[02 Warhawk]

Well....they're out. Bethel has 4 RRW, but still remains behind Whitewater in the West for the top spot.

I'm not sure what else Bethel can possibly have happen to jump ahead of Whitewater. Best bet is it hope the Hawks get shipped to the North (for Bethel's sake).

[hazzben]

Well....they're out. Bethel has 4 RRW, but still remains behind Whitewater in the West for the top spot.

Looks like the took UWW, 3-0 v. RRO and stronger SOS over Bethel, 4-0 EDIT: 3-0 v. RRO  (Bethel hasn't played SJU yet) and a bit lower SOS. This makes sense right now.

What's interesting is that the SOS part may flip or become near identical with 0-9 UWRF and 7-2 SJU up next for each. On the flip side, if Bethel wins, they'll also lose one of their W's against a RRO. A Wash U loss would produce the same for UWW, and potentially the loser of UWP/UWO.

But at the end of the day, it sure looks to me, barring upset, like we are trending for UWW and Bethel to each get a #1 seed in the North and West. What will be interesting is to watch who is placed where and how the brackets are constructed.

[AO]

Well....they're out. Bethel has 4 RRW, but still remains behind Whitewater in the West for the top spot.

I'm not sure what else Bethel can possibly have happen to jump ahead of Whitewater. Best bet is it hope the Hawks get shipped to the North (for Bethel's sake).

The regional committee only counted 2 RRW for Bethel this week, but for the secret rankings they will count 4.   They haven't played St. John's yet and St. Thomas doesn't count as a RRW until the following week as they just entered the rankings this week.

[hazzben]

Well....they're out. Bethel has 4 RRW, but still remains behind Whitewater in the West for the top spot.

I'm not sure what else Bethel can possibly have happen to jump ahead of Whitewater. Best bet is it hope the Hawks get shipped to the North (for Bethel's sake).

The regional committee only counted 2 RRW for Bethel this week, but for the secret rankings they will count 4.   They haven't played St. John's yet and St. Thomas doesn't count as a RRW until the following week as they just entered the rankings this week.

We don't know how the committee is treating these wins v. RRO. You're making the assumption they don't count the current weeks. They might not, but for all we know they may as well.

[MonroviaCat]

Well....they're out. Bethel has 4 RRW, but still remains behind Whitewater in the West for the top spot.

I'm not sure what else Bethel can possibly have happen to jump ahead of Whitewater. Best bet is it hope the Hawks get shipped to the North (for Bethel's sake).

The regional committee only counted 2 RRW for Bethel this week, but for the secret rankings they will count 4.   They haven't played St. John's yet and St. Thomas doesn't count as a RRW until the following week as they just entered the rankings this week.

We don't know how the committee is treating these wins v. RRO. You're making the assumption they don't count the current weeks. They might not, but for all we know they may as well.

exactly.

[02 Warhawk]

Well....they're out. Bethel has 4 RRW, but still remains behind Whitewater in the West for the top spot.

I'm not sure what else Bethel can possibly have happen to jump ahead of Whitewater. Best bet is it hope the Hawks get shipped to the North (for Bethel's sake).

The regional committee only counted 2 RRW for Bethel this week, but for the secret rankings they will count 4.   They haven't played St. John's yet and St. Thomas doesn't count as a RRW until the following week as they just entered the rankings this week.

Very true about St. John's...but as hazzben said, Bethel won't even get the chance to count St. John's as a regional win.

The St. Thomas theory, I'm not sure of that's true.

[02 Warhawk]

If C-M can stay in the RR after losing to a non-regionally ranked team, I assume the loser of the UWP/UWO game will remain as well. Considering whoever loses will have two losses...both to highly ranked RR teams.

Given a Wash U win on Saturday, I think UWW is safe with three RRO.

[AO]

We don't know how the committee is treating these wins v. RRO. You're making the assumption they don't count the current weeks. They might not, but for all we know they may as well.

The regional committee is given the information about the regionally ranked wins prior to their vote on the rankings.  I also believe that last year we learned that the regional committees don't readjust their rankings after they all submit their regional rankings.  If Wash U had fallen off the list this week, the West RAC wouldn't know about it.

[02 Warhawk]

We don't know how the committee is treating these wins v. RRO. You're making the assumption they don't count the current weeks. They might not, but for all we know they may as well.

The regional committee is given the information about the regionally ranked wins prior to their vote on the rankings.  I also believe that last year we learned that the regional committees don't readjust their rankings after they all submit their regional rankings.  If Wash U had fallen off the list this week, the West RAC wouldn't know about it.

Very interesting...I wonder if Pat or Keith could verify this.

[George Thompson]

With 7 teams in the Top 10 in West Region Rankings, the NCAA should just put 8 teams from the MIAC and WIAC into the playoffs.    1st and 2nd in each conference would be in the West and North regions.   3rd and 4th place teams would go East and South.   The regional finals might have 5-8 teams from those two conferences.    And the semi's could have four!   After all, they are by far the toughest conferences.

GT   

[bleedpurple]

With 7 teams in the Top 10 in West Region Rankings, the NCAA should just put 8 teams from the MIAC and WIAC into the playoffs.    1st and 2nd in each conference would be in the West and North regions.   3rd and 4th place teams would go East and South.   The regional finals might have 5-8 teams from those two conferences.    And the semi's could have four!   After all, they are by far the toughest conferences.

GT

But what about the all-stratosphere teams?

    LC, MU and MHB seem to be in their own stratosphere this year/
GT

Three non-WIAC/MIAC in their own stratosphere??? Yeah right. Play somebody. 

[02 Warhawk]

Wash U wins its remaining game, and UWP squeeks by UWO.

I think it's safe to say those three will be in the Regional Ranks...which bodes well for UWW's #1 ranking.

We'll know for certain how things go down tomorrow.