West Regional Rankings

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: desertcat1 on November 06, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
I think you missed the point Pat,, RR would help both PLU and CAts.  8-)
Quote from: d-train on November 06, 2013, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
Nobody should worry about Pacific because they can play their way in and they will not be in if they lose regardless.
Not worried about Pacific per se.  But the 'results vs. regional ranked' (for Bethel, Linfield, PLU) could have been quite different with Pacific at #9 and Redlands at #10 this week. Oh well...

Ahh. I should have known that was all you cared about. :)
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MonroviaCat

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 06, 2013, 02:20:50 PM
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It sort of feels like you think Linfield deserves the #1 seed because you like them and can't imagine anyone better.
Yes--pretty much.  But as a somewhat objective Linfield fan I think the criteria were applied appropriately for at least the first 3 teams on the West Regional Rankings....still scratching my head about Warburg being on the list ahead of Pacific.
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 06, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 06, 2013, 02:20:50 PM
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It sort of feels like you think Linfield deserves the #1 seed because you like them and can't imagine anyone better.
Yes--pretty much.  But as a somewhat objective Linfield fan I think the criteria were applied appropriately for at least the first 3 teams on the West Regional Rankings....still scratching my head about Warburg being on the list ahead of Pacific.

Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

desertcat1

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 06, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 06, 2013, 02:20:50 PM
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It sort of feels like you think Linfield deserves the #1 seed because you like them and can't imagine anyone better.
Yes--pretty much.  But as a somewhat objective Linfield fan I think the criteria were applied appropriately for at least the first 3 teams on the West Regional Rankings....still scratching my head about Warburg being on the list ahead of Pacific.

Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

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And pat thinks we ONLY care about the iSLAND TEAMS? :o
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hazzben

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
Strong showing by the WIAC, stronger than I imagined. I wonder is UWO or UWP will fall off the rankings once they play each other and someone gets that second loss?

If UWP beats UWO, I think they both stay ranked. If UWP loses, their SOS being what it is probably means they fall out. That'd be my guess anyway. And that's how I'm expecting the game to turn out as well.

hazzben

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?


MasterJedi

Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
Strong showing by the WIAC, stronger than I imagined. I wonder is UWO or UWP will fall off the rankings once they play each other and someone gets that second loss?

If UWP beats UWO, I think they both stay ranked. If UWP loses, their SOS being what it is probably means they fall out. That'd be my guess anyway. And that's how I'm expecting the game to turn out as well.

Once ranked, always ranked though too.

wildcat11

Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2012/championship-handbook.pdf

Section 1.3

Duey Naatz, Stout (co-chair, National Committee)
Terry Horan, Concordia-Moorhead (co-chair, National committee)
Chris Brann, Beloit
Scott Carnahan, Linfield
Mike Emendorfer, Platteville
Ben McEnroe, CLU
Dan Runkle, Debuque
Steve Johnson, Bethel
John Welty, Westminster

hazzben

Quote from: MasterJedi on November 06, 2013, 04:43:26 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
Strong showing by the WIAC, stronger than I imagined. I wonder is UWO or UWP will fall off the rankings once they play each other and someone gets that second loss?

If UWP beats UWO, I think they both stay ranked. If UWP loses, their SOS being what it is probably means they fall out. That'd be my guess anyway. And that's how I'm expecting the game to turn out as well.

Once ranked, always ranked though too.

Absolutely! I was just speaking to which, if either, might be in peril of falling out of the rankings. While they would both 'stay ranked' one falling out will make room for another team to enter in.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: wildcat11 on November 06, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2012/championship-handbook.pdf

Section 1.3

Duey Naatz, Stout (co-chair, National Committee)
Terry Horan, Concordia-Moorhead (co-chair, National committee)
Chris Brann, Beloit
Scott Carnahan, Linfield
Mike Emendorfer, Platteville
Ben McEnroe, CLU
Dan Runkle, Debuque
Steve Johnson, Bethel
John Welty, Westminster

I've seen enough

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on November 06, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2012/championship-handbook.pdf

Section 1.3

Duey Naatz, Stout (co-chair, National Committee)
Terry Horan, Concordia-Moorhead (co-chair, National committee)
Chris Brann, Beloit
Scott Carnahan, Linfield
Mike Emendorfer, Platteville
Ben McEnroe, CLU
Dan Runkle, Debuque
Steve Johnson, Bethel
John Welty, Westminster

I've seen enough

Well, SOMEONE has to be on the committee.  You'll note that Linfield's AD is on the committee and it would have done him some good if Pacific was in that #10 spot, or if they are next week when they play Linfield.  There are two WIAC reps, which could account for all three UW's making it in.  You can scream conspiracy almost no matter who ends up on the committee unless it's composed of five guys from teams that are NEVER in the rankings or playoff chase.
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MasterJedi

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 06, 2013, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on November 06, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2012/championship-handbook.pdf

Section 1.3

Duey Naatz, Stout (co-chair, National Committee)
Terry Horan, Concordia-Moorhead (co-chair, National committee)
Chris Brann, Beloit
Scott Carnahan, Linfield
Mike Emendorfer, Platteville
Ben McEnroe, CLU
Dan Runkle, Debuque
Steve Johnson, Bethel
John Welty, Westminster

I've seen enough

Well, SOMEONE has to be on the committee.  You'll note that Linfield's AD is on the committee and it would have done him some good if Pacific was in that #10 spot, or if they are next week when they play Linfield.  There are two WIAC reps, which could account for all three UW's making it in.  You can scream conspiracy almost no matter who ends up on the committee unless it's composed of five guys from teams that are NEVER in the rankings or playoff chase.

02 is as far away from being serious about that statement as anyone could possibly be.

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: MasterJedi on November 06, 2013, 05:51:44 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 06, 2013, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on November 06, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 06, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2012/championship-handbook.pdf

Section 1.3

Duey Naatz, Stout (co-chair, National Committee)
Terry Horan, Concordia-Moorhead (co-chair, National committee)
Chris Brann, Beloit
Scott Carnahan, Linfield
Mike Emendorfer, Platteville
Ben McEnroe, CLU
Dan Runkle, Debuque
Steve Johnson, Bethel
John Welty, Westminster

I've seen enough

Well, SOMEONE has to be on the committee.  You'll note that Linfield's AD is on the committee and it would have done him some good if Pacific was in that #10 spot, or if they are next week when they play Linfield.  There are two WIAC reps, which could account for all three UW's making it in.  You can scream conspiracy almost no matter who ends up on the committee unless it's composed of five guys from teams that are NEVER in the rankings or playoff chase.

02 is as far away from being serious about that statement as anyone could possibly be.

Broken sarcasm meter.  Long day at the office today.  My bad :)
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: desertcat1 on November 06, 2013, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 06, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 06, 2013, 02:20:50 PM
]

It sort of feels like you think Linfield deserves the #1 seed because you like them and can't imagine anyone better.
Yes--pretty much.  But as a somewhat objective Linfield fan I think the criteria were applied appropriately for at least the first 3 teams on the West Regional Rankings....still scratching my head about Warburg being on the list ahead of Pacific.

Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

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And pat thinks we ONLY care about the iSLAND TEAMS? :o

Considering it was a Whitewater fan who asked the question, yes.
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I'm okay with Linfield at #3 - It seems that this is an unusually strong season in 3 of the top conferences in the nation - WIAC, MIAC, and NWC.  The 3 UW teams have been in the Top 10 and only lost to each other... Bethel, St. Johns, and Concordia Morehead and St Thomas have all been ranked.. some very highly. The NWC has had Linfield, PLU, and Willamette ranked and a pretty solid team in Pacific. 

My hope would be that the WIAC conference would be placed with Mt Union in the North in the hopes of Mount Union not having 3 bye weeks in the playoffs.

The NWC deserves to go to the MIAC if there is a head to head game as I believe they have beaten us in consecutive seasons.