West Regional Rankings

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bluenote

Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 07, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 07, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
I would be fairly satisfied if they simply made all 4 brackets equal in terms of top teams spread amongst each bracket evenly. Wow!.....what  concept!   :o
Ah, but how do we determine which are the top teams?

Between about 5 of us on this board, we could figure it out over a beer or two.

bluenote

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 07, 2013, 02:02:58 PM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 07, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
I would be fairly satisfied if they simply made all 4 brackets equal in terms of top teams spread amongst each bracket evenly. Wow!.....what  concept!   :o

I suppose you'll help pay the traveling expenses for Linfield or MHB? In theory it's a good idea, until the NCAA starts racking up the traveling costs.

That's pocket change for them.....  ;)

D O.C.

Again, NCAA can put their money where their student athlete mouth is and spend that Final Four money promoting that concept.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: D O.C. on November 07, 2013, 02:15:11 PM
Again, NCAA can put their money where their student athlete mouth is and spend that Final Four money promoting that concept.
Right....that's gonna happen.
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Pat Coleman

The Division III budget is so unchangeable that it is actually written into the NCAA constitution. Division III gets 3.18% of the entire NCAA budget and that is HIGHLY unlikely to change.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2013, 05:38:56 PM
The Division III budget is so unchangeable that it is actually written into the NCAA constitution. Division III gets 3.18% of the entire NCAA budget and that is HIGHLY unlikely to change.
Wow, I am sure glad they can afford to spend that much!   ??? ::) ;D ;)
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George Thompson

Quote from: MonroviaCat on November 07, 2013, 12:00:36 PM
I mean, in a playoff format you don't know who will win each week and that makes it hard to ensure teams end up on the road.  The best you could probably do is set semis each year in one region or another on a rotating basis (e.g. one year North and West get home semis, followed by South and East the next year). [/quote]

That rotating semi-final idea has merit.  Good idea.

Or, make MU travel to the West region winner in the semi.   I would love to see the Purple Raiders at the Catdome someday.

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Between about 5 of us on this board, we could figure it out over a beer or two.
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Great idea!

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MasterJedi

You could always do it the way WI high school football works. Higher seed hosts the first round, lower seed hosts the second, higher seed hosts the third  and then neutral site for the semis.

Or you could always do it the best way, higher seed always hosts and if you're truly the better team you'll win at least 8 times out of 10.

KitchenSink

Quote from: D O.C. on November 07, 2013, 05:49:09 PM
Well! on our knees in thanks our 3.18 piece is greater than the pi itself.

This post is no Trivial Pursuit!  +k
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hazzben

Quote from: MasterJedi on November 07, 2013, 10:10:33 PM
You could always do it the way WI high school football works. Higher seed hosts the first round, lower seed hosts the second, higher seed hosts the third  and then neutral site for the semis.

Wow, so I'm imagining a scenario where one team is a higher seed and has to travel to a team they beat in the regular season for the Rd 2 rematch. Not a fan  ???

MasterJedi

Quote from: hazzben on November 08, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: MasterJedi on November 07, 2013, 10:10:33 PM
You could always do it the way WI high school football works. Higher seed hosts the first round, lower seed hosts the second, higher seed hosts the third  and then neutral site for the semis.

Wow, so I'm imagining a scenario where one team is a higher seed and has to travel to a team they beat in the regular season for the Rd 2 rematch. Not a fan  ???

Yep, my high school had to go on the road to a team to a team it beat 47-14 in the regular season! 47-0 into the 4th quarter and the 14 points scored in garbage time against backups. Beat them 31-0 last Friday. But it would be a way to make sure every team played on the road at least one game like some want. I personally don't like that system.

hazzben

Quote from: MasterJedi on November 08, 2013, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: hazzben on November 08, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: MasterJedi on November 07, 2013, 10:10:33 PM
You could always do it the way WI high school football works. Higher seed hosts the first round, lower seed hosts the second, higher seed hosts the third  and then neutral site for the semis.

Wow, so I'm imagining a scenario where one team is a higher seed and has to travel to a team they beat in the regular season for the Rd 2 rematch. Not a fan  ???

Yep, my high school had to go on the road to a team to a team it beat 47-14 in the regular season! 47-0 into the 4th quarter and the 14 points scored in garbage time against backups. Beat them 31-0 last Friday. But it would be a way to make sure every team played on the road at least one game like some want. I personally don't like that system.

Yeah, and at least that was one where the lower seed wasn't a major threat. What if it's a scenario where the higher seed already played the regular season game on the road and won a close fought contest. I digress...

Our system isn't perfect. But IMO it gets more right than it gets wrong. I'd love a truly national bracket. I'd love the system Pat talked about where a conference claiming it's Pool A bid requires that it champion have at least a .700 win percentage. So if the champ is a weak 6-3 or 6-4 they lose their slot and there's an extra Pool C. I'd add the caveat that if their SOS was in the top, say, 25 they still retain it. Makes room for a team that loses two Non-con games to elite undefeated teams from strong conferences and then loses two in the conference. Protects against teams avoiding tough matchups in the Non-con.

But overall, almost every team has a chance to play its way in. And the current process is much fairer than the old one.

AO

Quote from: hazzben on November 08, 2013, 11:27:45 AM
Our system isn't perfect. But IMO it gets more right than it gets wrong. I'd love a truly national bracket. I'd love the system Pat talked about where a conference claiming it's Pool A bid requires that it champion have at least a .700 win percentage. So if the champ is a weak 6-3 or 6-4 they lose their slot and there's an extra Pool C. I'd add the caveat that if their SOS was in the top, say, 25 they still retain it. Makes room for a team that loses two Non-con games to elite undefeated teams from strong conferences and then loses two in the conference. Protects against teams avoiding tough matchups in the Non-con.

But overall, almost every team has a chance to play its way in. And the current process is much fairer than the old one.
I wouldn't want many more pool C bids without also having a national bracket.  If any team in the MIAC was a pool C lock despite having two conference losses, the regular season would not be nearly as important as you'd just have to beat them again in the 1st or 2nd round.  If you could send St. Thomas/Concordia out to the East and not let conference foes meet until the final four, then I'd be all for it.