West Regional Rankings

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Hemingway13

Wildcat11,

Many thanks for posting the rankings committee members list.


This latest D3 conundrum constitutes a classic case of "curiouser and curiouser".  ;)
"Courage is grace under pressure." Ernest Hemingway

wildcat11

Quote from: Walla Walla Wildcat on November 06, 2013, 06:11:24 PM
I'm okay with Linfield at #3 -

I'm not.  I understand why they're not this week but I'm not ok with it.

02 Warhawk

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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 06, 2013, 03:50:02 PM
Is Bethel's AD on the RR committee or something? They scored huge by getting Wartburg AND St. John's in the Regional Ranks. that's a little shady to me  ;)

Not sure, but that's a great question in general. Who are the members of the West Region Committee this year?

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2012/championship-handbook.pdf

Section 1.3

Duey Naatz, Stout (co-chair, National Committee)
Terry Horan, Concordia-Moorhead (co-chair, National committee)
Chris Brann, Beloit
Scott Carnahan, Linfield
Mike Emendorfer, Platteville
Ben McEnroe, CLU
Dan Runkle, Debuque
Steve Johnson, Bethel
John Welty, Westminster

I've seen enough

Well, SOMEONE has to be on the committee.  You'll note that Linfield's AD is on the committee and it would have done him some good if Pacific was in that #10 spot, or if they are next week when they play Linfield.  There are two WIAC reps, which could account for all three UW's making it in.  You can scream conspiracy almost no matter who ends up on the committee unless it's composed of five guys from teams that are NEVER in the rankings or playoff chase.

02 is as far away from being serious about that statement as anyone could possibly be.

Broken sarcasm meter.  Long day at the office today.  My bad :)

no worries  ;D

Hemingway13

Pat Coleman,
Was that actually your 32,000th post here, or have you just stopped the counter at a nice round number?! :o
"Courage is grace under pressure." Ernest Hemingway

D O.C.

It costs me $88 to fly from Long Beach to Portland on Jet Blue.
With LINFIELD at #1 I could theoretically book three consecutive weekends now and see every game  - only taking a $20 cancellation fee if they lost at home.  8-)

When they have to travel to the Midwest or Texas it costs $400 at best with 6 days notice.

My intentions are pure unadulterated self centeredness

bluenote

Well.....I thought I understood how the Regional Ranking worked but now I don't understand it at all.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: Bluenote on November 06, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Well.....I thought I understood how the Regional Ranking worked but now I don't understand it at all.
You understood how they are supposed to work.....not how they actually work ;)
Go Cats!

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Hemingway13 on November 06, 2013, 06:19:19 PM
Pat Coleman,
Was that actually your 32,000th post here, or have you just stopped the counter at a nice round number?! :o


It was. Huh.
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The problem with SOS is that, even though the numbers are objective, they still can lead to misleading judgements.    Linfield has a surprisingly low SOS this year---through no scheduling  fault of their own.    They have had much higher SOSs in the past.    Yet, this Wildcat team to date has been so dominating, that they appear as good as any Linfield team I have seen in 30 years.

I am sure other teams' supporters can make claims on why they should be ranked higher.   
However, every playoff team should play one game on the road.    That evens out everything.     Prior playoff history and SOS should not give any team all home games before the Stagg Bowl. 

GT
GO CATS! GO!

MonroviaCat

Quote from: George Thompson on November 07, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
The problem with SOS is that, even though the numbers are objective, they still can lead to misleading judgements.    Linfield has a surprisingly low SOS this year---through no scheduling  fault of their own.    They have had much higher SOSs in the past.    Yet, this Wildcat team to date has been so dominating, that they appear as good as any Linfield team I have seen in 30 years.

I am sure other teams' supporters can make claims on why they should be ranked higher.   
However, every playoff team should play one game on the road.    That evens out everything.     Prior playoff history and SOS should not give any team all home games before the Stagg Bowl. 

GT
While I understand the rationale behind this...how would you even make it happen.  I mean, in a playoff format you don't know who will win each week and that makes it hard to ensure teams end up on the road.  The best you could probably do is set semis each year in one region or another on a rotating basis (e.g. one year North and West get home semis, followed by South and East the next year).  You could something similar with seeds  (if they existed ;) ) but then it would all go to hell the minute an unexpected result occurred.
Go Cats!

D O.C.

Or you could rent a stadium like baseball impractical as that would be.

All this will be loads of fun if, indeed, Division I ever has our playoff system. You think I complain, er, I mean, offer a dissenting opinion....

MonroviaCat

Quote from: D O.C. on November 07, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
Or you could rent a stadium like baseball impractical as that would be.

All this will be loads of fun if, indeed, Division I ever has our playoff system. You think I complain, er, I mean, offer a dissenting opinion....
Yeah I almost suggested a neutral site but then thought, how lame would that be not to have games on campus.  It makes sense for baseball since they are playing multiple games and days in a row......but football needs the crowd!
Go Cats!

bluenote

#72
I would be fairly satisfied if they simply made all 4 brackets equal in terms of top teams spread amongst each bracket evenly. Wow!.....what  concept!   :o

MonroviaCat

Quote from: Bluenote on November 07, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
I would be fairly satisfied if they simply made all 4 brackets equal in terms of top teams spread amongst each bracket evenly. Wow!.....what  concept!   :o
Ah, but how do we determine which are the top teams? 
Go Cats!

02 Warhawk

#74
Quote from: Bluenote on November 07, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
I would be fairly satisfied if they simply made all 4 brackets equal in terms of top teams spread amongst each bracket evenly. Wow!.....what  concept!   :o

I suppose you'll help pay the traveling expenses for Linfield or MHB? In theory it's a good idea, until the NCAA starts racking up the traveling costs.