MBB: General Mid-Atlantic Conversation

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Can't disagree with the thought on Stevenson, but I have a feeling their SOS is going to keep them up in the Top 9... they have played very good teams who have played very good schedules. Their game against Middlebury alone will bring in the SOS of the NESCAC. And the MAC Commonwealth always has good SOS numbers as well.

Saw Juniata last night... I think they have the talent and the ability to be a dangerous team in the playoffs, but as senior laden as they are (starting five is all seniors), I just can't figure out why they don't dominate. They allowed a streaky Goucher team back in the game in the first half and then held on to win in the end. Not what I was hoping to see from Juniata.

[mailsy]

Just thought this was interesting. Another poster, KnightSlappy, does his own regional rankings based on RPI. Here is the current MidAtlantic teams through Wednesday.

RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   RRO   CONFER   TEAM
MA   01   0.923   0.590   0.673   003   0-0   CAC      Wesley
MA   02   0.929   0.524   0.625   010   0-0   MACC     Messiah
MA   03   0.813   0.553   0.618   015   0-0   CC       Dickinson
MA   04   0.692   0.588   0.614   019   0-0   CAC      St. Marys (Md.)
MA   05   0.867   0.529   0.613   021   0-0   CAC      Mary Washington
MA   06   1.000   0.454   0.590   045   0-0   CSAC     Cabrini
MA   07   0.667   0.558   0.585   049   0-0   MACC     Alvernia
MA   08   0.733   0.534   0.584   053   0-0   LAND     Juniata
MA   09   0.714   0.540   0.583   055   0-0   CAC      Christopher Newport
MA   10   0.750   0.524   0.581   058   0-0   MACC     Stevenson
MA   11   0.733   0.528   0.579   060   0-0   MACC     Hood
MA   12   0.813   0.492   0.572   071   0-0   LAND     Scranton
MA   13   0.800   0.494   0.570   074   0-0   CC       McDaniel
MA   14   0.667   0.536   0.569   075   0-0   CSAC     Neumann
MA   15   0.733   0.513   0.568   076   0-0   LAND     Catholic
MA   16   0.357   0.628   0.561   085   0-0   MACC     Arcadia
MA   17   0.500   0.575   0.556   097   0-0   LAND     Drew
MA   18   0.786   0.479   0.555   098   0-0   CSAC     Gwynedd-Mercy
MA   19   0.563   0.542   0.547   107   0-0   MACC     Albright
MA   20   0.688   0.489   0.539   122   0-0   CC       Franklin and Marshall

[ronk]

My revised RRs after this week's action so far:
1. Cabrini
2. Wesley
3. Mary Washington
4. Messiah
5. Scranton
6. St. Mary's
7. Dickinson
8. Stevenson
9. Christopher Newport
10. McDaniel

[CCHoopster]

Dave:

How objective or subjective are regional rankings? 50-50, 60-40...... Could a team like Cabrini really be ranked #6 regionally and #3 nationally?

Thanks.

[Pat Coleman]

Regionally rankings are completely objective. As much by the numbers as the numbers will allow.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

CCHoopster, remember there are more items involved than just SOS... Cabrini's record for example would move them higher and ahead of teams with maybe better SOS numbers, but one or more losses. However, don't be surprised because of Cabrini's SOS (an estimated .454 which will improve) they end up not #1.

[CCHoopster]

Thanks Pat and Dave. Lot of hoops to be played but the RR's being a few shorts weeks away bring exciting anticipation!

[ronk]

My revised RRs after this today's action(Messiah loss, Stevenson near-upset:
1. Cabrini
2. Wesley
3. Mary Washington
4. Scranton
5. St. Mary's
6. Dickinson
7. Messiah
8. Christopher Newport
9. McDaniel
10. Stevenson

Monday: CNU-St.Mary's

[CCHoopster]

1. Cabrini
2. Wesley
3. Mary Washington
4. St. Mary's
5. Dickinson
6. Messiah- (only dropping them 2 spots losing on a buzzer beater on the road to a 13-4 team and other loss to Stevenson- I can see swapping them and Scranton too)
7. Scranton
8. CNU
9. McDaniel
10. Stevenson

[CCHoopster]

1. Cabrini
2. Wesley
3. Mary Washington
4. St. Mary's
5. Dickinson
6. Messiah- (only dropping them 2 spots losing on a buzzer beater on the road to a 13-4 team and other loss to Stevenson- I can see swapping them and Scranton too)
7. Scranton
8. CNU
9. McDaniel
10. Stevenson

My updated after 12/28 games

1- Cabrini
2- Wesley
3- Mary Washington
4- St. Mary's
5- Messiah
6- Scranton
7- Dickinson
8- McDaniel
9- Christopher Newport----------------------
Catholic, Stevenson, Hood

Don't sleep on Hood College. If they can beat Stevenson tonight I see them creeping into the 8-9 regional rankings spot if they keep it up till first vote.

[CCHoopster]

When are the first Regional Rankings? Next week?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

February 12, 19 and 26.

[CCHoopster]

Games through 1-30-14 (St. Mary's loss)

1- Cabrini
2- Wesley
3- Mary Wash
4- Messiah
5- Scranton
6- Dickinson
7- St. Mary's
8- Hood
9- McDaniel
-------------------
Catholic, Stevenson, CNU

[CCHoopster]

Games through 2/1/14

1- Cabrini
2- Wesley
3- Mary Wash
4- Messiah
5- Scranton
6- Dickinson
7- St Mary's
8- Hood
9- CNU

Alvernia- McDaniel- Stevenson

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Considering SOS numbers... I don't see SMC that far down... especially below Scranton and Dickinson. They may even be above Messiah.