Mid-East Region 2014

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motorman

That's right, ancient history. And of course anything that doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is wrong.

Spence

Quote from: motorman on April 15, 2014, 01:30:52 PM
That's right, ancient history. And of course anything that doesn't agree with your narrow view of the world is wrong.

Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.

Let's see...my narrow view of the world...I've been to the national tournament 4 times in two different venues (not on Jim Dixon's level there but a few), I've been an official scorer for 100+ games, I've been paid for articles about teams in the New England, New York, Mideast, South and West regions, and did unpaid work on the Mid-Atlantic region. I live in the Midwest region right now and was at the same youth tournament/showcase as Chris Olean and Corey Kemp this summer. So I've missed the Central, but BigPoppa pretty much has that covered. :) I have reported on a game involving a Central team, but wasn't primarily covering them so I don't think that counts.

The first regional tournament I went to was in 1995 in my first year as an undergrad. I got pretty sunburned watching Marietta and Allegheny beat the ball around the yard with -5 differential bats for a doubleheader on championship day.

What I'm saying by bringing up the past is that it's all happened before and the polls have been proven wrong many a time. I used to critique the polls a lot more than I do now, because it's just not worth it and the problems that arise are unlikely to change.

Teams have come from being unranked or nearly unranked and won the national title, teams have been in the top 5 and gone 2 and out in the regional. Teams have been ranked in the top 10 and not gotten a Pool C berth (unlikely to happen now, thank you March Madness).

All questions get answered in May (or sometimes late April in the south).

motorman

There was no agenda at all in my posts about the current rankings. I merely thought they might be of interest to any Mideast baseball fans you haven't chased away from this site with your endless rants (this one I totally ignored). Of course you had to respond with one of your infamous history lessons because your narrow view is through those Pioneer blue glasses you have on. Just like when you ripped the Massey ratings as flawed because they weren't what you wanted to see. 

Spence

Quote from: motorman on April 15, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
There was no agenda at all in my posts about the current rankings. I merely thought they might be of interest to any Mideast baseball fans you haven't chased away from this site with your endless rants (this one I totally ignored).

"I'll believe that when me **** turns purple, and smells like rainbow sherbet."

Of course you had to respond with one of your infamous history lessons because your narrow view is through those Pioneer blue glasses you have on. Just like when you ripped the Massey ratings as flawed because they weren't what you wanted to see.

Even though you have made this personal, out of respect for Pat and Jim, I'm not responding in kind even though I think I would be justified in doing so.

Pat Coleman

Oh honestly, neither of you has a leg to stand on here. Your back-and-forth is indeed poisoning the rest of the OAC conversation and as my mom noted long before 1995, it takes two to fight.

No high horses here. Just let it cool off, both of you.
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motorman

Another indicator of the strength of the Mideast Region, the Massey Ratings. 14 teams in the top 100.

5. Heidelberg
17. Case
42. Baldwin Wallace
44. John Carroll
50. Marietta
60. Allegheny
62. Wabash
66. Wooster
68. Adrian
70. Ohio Northern
73. Manchester
80. Mount Union
92. Otterbein
94. Rose Hulman

Half of those 14 are OAC schools

Spence

The beginning of the critiques against Massey's ratings is that the records aren't even right.  ::) Next would be that its future schedules are wrong. Third, related to second, Massey apparently doesn't know what a doubleheader is, which makes several pieces of data somewhere between flawed and useless.

If you really care beyond that, I'll go on, but I'm not going to waste my time if you're just looking for a drive-by dig.

Pat Coleman

I know Massey used to scrape our site for its scores but I don't think he does anymore. I believe he's trying to pull them from some NCAA site. But I believe we're more updated.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Spence

John Carroll (3-3): 1-1 vs. Case Western (L at neutral site; W at home), 2-0 vs. BW. 0-2 at Heidelberg
Remaining on the schedule: DH at Marietta, at Case Western.

Marietta (4-3): 2-1 vs. Case Western (W at neutral; 1-1 at Case), 1-1 vs. BW, 1-1 at Heide.
Remaining on the schedule: DH vs. JCU.

Heidelberg (5-3): 1-1 vs. BW (neutral site), 1-1 vs. Case, 1-1 vs. MC. 2-0 vs. JCU
Remaining on the schedule: at Case Western.

Baldwin-Wallace (3-4): 1-1 vs. Heide (neutral site), 1-1 at MC, 1-0 vs. Case, 0-2 at JCU.
Remaining on the schedule: none. (maybe a makeup at Case?)

Case Western Reserve (4-6): 1-1 vs. JCU (W at neutral, L at JCU), 1-1 at Heide, 1-2 vs. Marietta (L at neutral, 1-1 at home), 0-1 vs. BW.
Remaining on the schedule: vs. Heidelberg, vs. John Carroll, (makeup vs. BW?)

Updated, submitted without comment to avoid offending anyone.

motorman

Big Mid East showdown DH today as Laroche and Pitt-Bradford battle for first place in the AMCC.

Bishopleftiesdad

Quote from: motorman on April 19, 2014, 08:54:59 AM
Big Mid East showdown DH today as Laroche and Pitt-Bradford battle for first place in the AMCC.
Thanks motorman. There is so little talk here about tge amcc. Are they officially a mideast conference this year? Or are still considered a multi region conference?

motorman

I believe they are officially a mideast conference now. LaRoche made a statement, beat Pitt-Bradford 16-3 and 16-1 to take a 2 game lead in the loss column over their victims today. I knew LaRoche had a more difficult schedule, including Heidelberg and Marietta, but they showed as the better team today on the field.

motorman

#102
I expect the 1st regional rankings will be out this week since the 1st one last year is dated 4/25/13. I've changed a few things since
mine I posted last week.

1. Heidelberg (27-5)
2. Case (25-7)
3. Marietta (22-10)
4. Allegheny (22-7)
5. Adrian (23-8)
6. John Carroll (18-10)
7. Baldwin Wallace (19-8)*
8. Manchester (20-11)

*BW record omits 4 non D3 losses, overall record of 19-12

EttaFan1

Quote from: motorman on April 20, 2014, 09:11:46 AM
I expect the 1st regional rankings will be out this week since the 1st one last year is dated 4/25/13. I've changed a few things since
mine I posted last week.

1. Heidelberg (27-5)
2. Case (25-7)
3. Marietta (22-10)
4. Allegheny (22-7)
5. Adrian (23-8)
6. John Carroll (18-10)
7. Baldwin Wallace (19-8)*
8. Manchester (20-11)

*BW record omits 4 non D3 losses, overall record of 19-12

While this looks pretty good, I'll be surprised to see JCU in this group after being swept in Tiffin last Friday.  It won't surprise me to see someone from the PrAC or the AMCC in the list.  But overall I think the list is solid. 

ADL70

#104
Of its nine remaining games, CWRU has games at Allegheny (2) and home vs Heidelberg and B-W this week, then next week John Carroll at Progressive Field.

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