Most hated schools

[thewaterboy]

A bit late to the discussion, but hey.... Anyways, there is not animosity from Wesley fans towards UMHB at all.  I think the rivalry there is an honest one and if you ask anybody about Wesley's losses to them they would say the better team won and that was it.  I have a personal dislike for Mount Union that stems from my experience during the first playoff game Wesley played there and the treatment both the team and the fans got.  It's old history but it still irritates me.

-Ski

It's good and bad that Wesley is joining the NJAC next season.  Good for them with respect to scheduling games, but bad in the sense that it will be much harder to schedule regular season games with UMHB.  As you say, I get the impression that the rivalry has been an honest one and both fan bases get excited for it.  Hopefully we can at least meet y'all sometime in the playoffs!

This year it looks like the only way Wesley and UMHB will clash will be in Salem

[jknezek]

A bit late to the discussion, but hey.... Anyways, there is not animosity from Wesley fans towards UMHB at all.  I think the rivalry there is an honest one and if you ask anybody about Wesley's losses to them they would say the better team won and that was it.  I have a personal dislike for Mount Union that stems from my experience during the first playoff game Wesley played there and the treatment both the team and the fans got.  It's old history but it still irritates me.

-Ski

It's good and bad that Wesley is joining the NJAC next season.  Good for them with respect to scheduling games, but bad in the sense that it will be much harder to schedule regular season games with UMHB.  As you say, I get the impression that the rivalry has been an honest one and both fan bases get excited for it.  Hopefully we can at least meet y'all sometime in the playoffs!

This year it looks like the only way Wesley and UMHB will clash will be in Salem

Probably. But I could see quantitative reasons why you could have national seeds go:

1) UWW
2) UMHB
3) UMU
4) Wesley

That could send Wesley to the Cruthedral in the semis if things hold serve. I find this unlikely since it would match UMU at UWW in the semis, but a case could be made based on the criteria. I HIGHLY doubt it would happen since in the case of undefeated teams you can use previous playoff outcomes as a determinant, pushing UMU above UMHB, but the committee could get feisty and look at UMU's schedule with a jaundiced eye this year.

Of the four, Wesley has the best SOS right now (in the teens), but the lowest number of D3 games and the weakest playoff history. UMHB will probably have the second SOS (in the 60s right now), but I have to believe UWW's (SOS in the 90s now but probably going to improve some) status as defending champion will outweigh that small inconvenience. That leaves UMU (in the 120s right now but will improve with the JCU game) and UMHB for that two spot. UMU has the history, but UMHB will have the SOS and a possible lingering belief they were the second best team last year.

Do I think it happens? No. But I could see the logic if they wanted to make some waves.

[D3MAFAN]

A bit late to the discussion, but hey.... Anyways, there is not animosity from Wesley fans towards UMHB at all.  I think the rivalry there is an honest one and if you ask anybody about Wesley's losses to them they would say the better team won and that was it.  I have a personal dislike for Mount Union that stems from my experience during the first playoff game Wesley played there and the treatment both the team and the fans got.  It's old history but it still irritates me.

-Ski

It's good and bad that Wesley is joining the NJAC next season.  Good for them with respect to scheduling games, but bad in the sense that it will be much harder to schedule regular season games with UMHB.  As you say, I get the impression that the rivalry has been an honest one and both fan bases get excited for it.  Hopefully we can at least meet y'all sometime in the playoffs!

This year it looks like the only way Wesley and UMHB will clash will be in Salem

Probably. But I could see quantitative reasons why you could have national seeds go:

1) UWW
2) UMHB
3) UMU
4) Wesley

That could send Wesley to the Cruthedral in the semis if things hold serve. I find this unlikely since it would match UMU at UWW in the semis, but a case could be made based on the criteria. I HIGHLY doubt it would happen since in the case of undefeated teams you can use previous playoff outcomes as a determinant, pushing UMU above UMHB, but the committee could get feisty and look at UMU's schedule with a jaundiced eye this year.

Of the four, Wesley has the best SOS right now (in the teens), but the lowest number of D3 games and the weakest playoff history. UMHB will probably have the second SOS (in the 60s right now), but I have to believe UWW's (SOS in the 90s now but probably going to improve some) status as defending champion will outweigh that small inconvenience. That leaves UMU (in the 120s right now but will improve with the JCU game) and UMHB for that two spot. UMU has the history, but UMHB will have the SOS and a possible lingering belief they were the second best team last year.

Do I think it happens? No. But I could see the logic if they wanted to make some waves.

Mount Union will not have an away game, until someone beats them there, they will forever play their playoff games in Alliance.

[MasterJedi]

A bit late to the discussion, but hey.... Anyways, there is not animosity from Wesley fans towards UMHB at all.  I think the rivalry there is an honest one and if you ask anybody about Wesley's losses to them they would say the better team won and that was it.  I have a personal dislike for Mount Union that stems from my experience during the first playoff game Wesley played there and the treatment both the team and the fans got.  It's old history but it still irritates me.

-Ski

It's good and bad that Wesley is joining the NJAC next season.  Good for them with respect to scheduling games, but bad in the sense that it will be much harder to schedule regular season games with UMHB.  As you say, I get the impression that the rivalry has been an honest one and both fan bases get excited for it.  Hopefully we can at least meet y'all sometime in the playoffs!

This year it looks like the only way Wesley and UMHB will clash will be in Salem

Probably. But I could see quantitative reasons why you could have national seeds go:

1) UWW
2) UMHB
3) UMU
4) Wesley

That could send Wesley to the Cruthedral in the semis if things hold serve. I find this unlikely since it would match UMU at UWW in the semis, but a case could be made based on the criteria. I HIGHLY doubt it would happen since in the case of undefeated teams you can use previous playoff outcomes as a determinant, pushing UMU above UMHB, but the committee could get feisty and look at UMU's schedule with a jaundiced eye this year.

Of the four, Wesley has the best SOS right now (in the teens), but the lowest number of D3 games and the weakest playoff history. UMHB will probably have the second SOS (in the 60s right now), but I have to believe UWW's (SOS in the 90s now but probably going to improve some) status as defending champion will outweigh that small inconvenience. That leaves UMU (in the 120s right now but will improve with the JCU game) and UMHB for that two spot. UMU has the history, but UMHB will have the SOS and a possible lingering belief they were the second best team last year.

Do I think it happens? No. But I could see the logic if they wanted to make some waves.

Mount Union will not have an away game, until someone beats them there, they will forever play their playoff games in Alliance.

They've been set up for road games in the past but the other teams couldn't hold up their end of the bargain. I think in 2010 Mount might have had to travel to St Thomas.

[GillCJ1]

If I look at this from as un-biased a perspective as I possibly can, I can easily see UMU jumping UMHB which would then force the Cru on the road in a hypothetical semis round.  On that note, it makes sense that the likelihood of UMHB/Wesley meeting would probably only occur in Salem.

As always, thanks for your insight fellas.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Due to geography, Millikin was the 'most hated school' for IWU back when I was a student (when dinosaurs roamed the planet).  Since they have become completely irrelevant in most sports since then, the 'most hated school' is now probably North Central or Wheaton, depending on the sport.

[Breckenridgebear]

Since it is officially Monon Bell week, can we all agree that Wabash is just the worst.

[Breckenridgebear]

As we get closer to Saturday, I am more and more convinced that Wabash is the worst.