Liberty League

Started by Saint of Old, August 12, 2014, 12:14:06 PM

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stlawus


lastguyoffthebench


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d3d3d3

How does a team that doesn't make its conference tournament get an NCAA bid? The RPI coach should be ashamed of himself.

Mr.Right

Not to mention they were a much better and more deserving side in 2013 and 2014. This year's side is average at best

deutschfan

When you looked at the latest press releases from RPI that always mentioned an NCAA bid as a possibility when all the pundits were saying no way you knew the fix was in.  I am really a fan of this league, and don't want to sound too much like a detractor, but this is such a disservice to Hobart this year, and all the LL teams in the past who have had to fight and claw their way into the playoffs.  Seventh place in the conference.  Nuf said.   

blooter442

Quote from: deutschfan on November 09, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
I am really a fan of this league, and don't want to sound too much like a detractor, but this is such a disservice to Hobart this year, and all the LL teams in the past who have had to fight and claw their way into the playoffs.  Seventh place in the conference.  Nuf said.   

Yeah. Regardless of Hobart's SOS, they still got shafted IMHO. Not even making your conference tournament is really bad, and to have a team that was subject to that fate picked over a 13-3-2 team is bad.

Bucket

Quote from: deutschfan on November 09, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
When you looked at the latest press releases from RPI that always mentioned an NCAA bid as a possibility when all the pundits were saying no way you knew the fix was in.  I am really a fan of this league, and don't want to sound too much like a detractor, but this is such a disservice to Hobart this year, and all the LL teams in the past who have had to fight and claw their way into the playoffs.  Seventh place in the conference.  Nuf said.   

And selected over Middlebury team that finished second in the NESCAC (and was upset in the semifinals on penalty kicks.)

stlawus

Quote from: deutschfan on November 09, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
When you looked at the latest press releases from RPI that always mentioned an NCAA bid as a possibility when all the pundits were saying no way you knew the fix was in.  I am really a fan of this league, and don't want to sound too much like a detractor, but this is such a disservice to Hobart this year, and all the LL teams in the past who have had to fight and claw their way into the playoffs.  Seventh place in the conference.  Nuf said.   


No disagreement there.  Hobart made the LL tourney AND beat SLU who were ranked at the time. 

d3d3d3

I agree with Mr. Right. In recent years the argument to get RPI was much stronger than it is this year. Where is the win that put RPI in? And where did Hobart go wrong?

deutschfan

Hobart should have been the only other viable NCAA candidate this year.  Bard loss killed it for Skidmore, and Union has got to start playing a tougher out of conference schedule.  Bard played SLU tougher than RPI.  Since arguably SLU underachieved this year with two conference losses (I am a little tongue in cheek here) perhaps the RPI staff should get coaching staff of the year honors.  Certainly if lobbying the NCAA is a component they should be right up there.     

d3d3d3

I didn't even realize it until I just checked, but RPI went 3-3-2 in the league. It's outrageous they're in the tournament. Meanwhile, Middlebury (12-2-2) is among the teams watching from home.

deutschfan

Middlebury would have been better off not qualifying for the NESCAC playoffs.  Would have avoided that pesky PK loss and would have had more time to heal from a tough season.  If the committee was going to give bids to teams that didn't make their conference playoffs they should have looked at Vassar.  Vassar beat both SLU and RPI, and tied Oneonta.  What's six losses when you can beat the two NCAA qualifiers from the conference.  Just absurd.  I will stop now. 

stlawus

I have to say, as a SLU alum I would love nothing more than a shot at redemption against Amherst, but that's what we've been saying for the last 10 years and it's never gone our way.  I'm not terribly upset they're not in the same pod this year!

Saint of Old

after a day digesting the NCAA picks.

I think 3 things are for sure.
1. The LL is too good a league to only have one team represented year after year.

In 2011 and 2012 there were three teams picked if memory serves (RPI/Vassar/SLU)

2013 and 2014 only SLU was chosen which is a shame.

2. RPI got royally skewered last season and perhaps deserved a bid.

3. I am happy to be cheering for 2 teams from here on out.
Obviously I want my boyz to "eat the food" as it applies to the NCAA, but I would also like to see RPI do well, and I would feel the same about Hobart/Skidmore or Union were they in the Dance.

Here we go LL!!

1970s NESCAC Player

Completely agree Old Saint that the LL is a top class league!  This could be the year for your Saints.