Liberty League

[PaulNewman]

2-0 Vassar last I checked, and agreed, massive for Vassar if he can see it through.

[Mr.Right]

3-0 Vassar...Unreal....5 Total Shots for Vassar and 3 goals...Since no one is goin to pay $7.50 to watch UR of play we have to assume UR outshot Vassar and maybe outplayed them nut Vassar gets it done with a HUGE win...NIve win for Vassar

[stlawus]

3-0 Vassar...Unreal....5 Total Shots for Vassar and 3 goals...Since no one is goin to pay $7.50 to watch UR of play we have to assume UR outshot Vassar and maybe outplayed them nut Vassar gets it done with a HUGE win...NIve win for Vassar

I still don't understand how a college with a $1 billion + endowment is still charging people to watch online streams.  SLU provides free HQ streams for ALL sports, even our D1 hockey teams which you could actually make a case for charging a fee to watch.

[deutschfan]

As long as Vassar makes the LL playoffs they should be in the mix for a pool C.  Great coaching job by the staff--graduate 10 and have a good chance of making it back to the NCAAs.  Also it shows  the value of a steady diet of home cooking.   

[stlawus]

So looks like RPI is going to win comfortably against Bard.  For SLU to get into the LL playoffs they're going to need Union/Bard to at least draw with Skidmore or Vassar, and that's all dependent upon beating Clarkson next weekend.  I'm looking at RPI's schedule last year, and it appears their win against Oneonta is what got them a Pool C bid, because outside of that game their OOC schedule wasn't that remarkable.   I wonder what it will mean for SLU if they don't get into the LL playoff.  They beat Vassar and Cortland, who have been on a tear the last few weeks.  If going by last year's results I think SLU might have a slight chance at pool C.  Am I being delusional or does anyone else agree?

[deutschfan]

SLU is a lock for the LL playoffs and I think Vassar's win over Rochester assures the LL of an automatic and a pool c.  If Vassar stumbles in one of its last two games, and SLU doesn't win the tournament, then SLU will get the Pool C.  If SLU wins the tournament, and Vassar fails to get into the playoffs Vassar may actually pull off an RPI as Skidmore, Hobart, and RPI simply have too many blemishes.  Interesting scenario is if Vassar gets in, and SLU gets in, and neither win.  SLU has head to head but Vassar's Rochester win is compelling. 

[Mr.Right]

SLU is not a lock for a LL berth. I think Skidmore knows what is on the line and will dispatch of Bard and Union...Maybe Maybe Union gets a draw with Skidmore but I wouldn't say it is a LOCK. I actually think Vassar could draw with Union because sometimes after teams beat a nationally ranked team they can get very complacent in their next game. We will see. I do think SLU has a shot at a Pool C anyway but they would need some help from other teams in other regions either not depending on a Pool C if they lose in their league tournament and teams like Oneonta or UR start losing. If UR starts dropping games they will drop in the rankings. However, SLU would want Vassar and Cortland to keep winning so they do not drop out of the East Rankings otherwise they would lose their ranked wins.

[blooter442]

3-0 Vassar...Unreal....5 Total Shots for Vassar and 3 goals...Since no one is goin to pay $7.50 to watch UR of play we have to assume UR outshot Vassar and maybe outplayed them nut Vassar gets it done with a HUGE win...NIve win for Vassar

I still don't understand how a college with a $1 billion + endowment is still charging people to watch online streams.  SLU provides free HQ streams for ALL sports, even our D1 hockey teams which you could actually make a case for charging a fee to watch.

Thaaaaaaaaank you!

What a win for Vassar, though.  I saw that fixture on the calendar and was shocked to see the final score line, as I would have pictured Rochester pulling out a gritty win on the road.

After starting 7-0-1 Rochester is 1-2-2 in its last five. That is what happens when you frontload your schedule with cupcakes and leave the tough games for the second half of the season.  Even so, I think Rochester is still in a very good position for a Pool C,  and it certainly is admirable that they have won all the games that they're supposed to win, but I do think that they are perhaps being found out as not being as potent as people thought based on their red–hot start.

[Mr.Right]

If UR finishes the season with losses to Brandeis and Emory and say a draw with NYU or even a win v NYU they are a bubble team IMO. The RvR is not going to be very good. The win v Buff State will not matter now because they will drop off the East rankings. They drew Wash U and lost to Chicago and Vassar. If they lose to Emory and Brandeis(which will sneak into the New England rankings next week IMO) that will be a 0-4-1 RvR. Their only wins would be against Hobart and CMU which I think might drop off the East rankings especially if they lose to Union tonight. Either way 1-4-1 RvR will not get it done no matter what their SOS is.

[PaulNewman]

Wait....which endowment are we talking about...Vassar's or UR's?  I know UR charges for games but this was at Vassar.  Vassar also charges $7.50???

Agree that UR MUST get a win over Brandeis or Emory, and I would guess that they will pull one out.

[blooter442]

Wait....which endowment are we talking about...Vassar's or UR's?  I know UR charges for games but this was at Vassar.  Vassar also charges $7.50???

Agree that UR MUST get a win over Brandeis or Emory, and I would guess that they will pull one out.

I don't know if Vassar does or not, but I have complained before about Rochester's decision to charge for games.

I agree that they will win one or both of those games, as Rochester is really good at getting big wins when they need to. That said, last year I thought Rochester would pull out wins in its last three to fall backwards into a Pool C bid, but alas they did not, going 6-5-5 overall and 1-3-3 in conference.  Perhaps they had taken for granted that they would win those big games, as I remember them two years ago coming back from being 1-0 down in the last 10 minutes to beat Carnegie on the road in a must-win game 2-1 and get an NCAA bid, but if there was any complacency on that front it will certainly have been eliminated by failing to make NCAAs last year.

[Ommadawn]

Wait....which endowment are we talking about...Vassar's or UR's?  I know UR charges for games but this was at Vassar.  Vassar also charges $7.50???

I haven't had to pay for any LL games this year (including games at Vassar).  I missed all of today's games online, though, so I don't know if Vassar charged today.

[Kick-grass]

RPI and Hobart have punched their tickets into the playoffs. Who joins them? Skidmore needs the AQ, while SLU and Vassar are in that Pool C discussion. Who needs the AQ more, Vassar or SLU? What other 2 teams are going to join the LL Playoffs?

[stlawus]

I think it's kind of a tossup between SLU and Vassar needing the AQ.  SLU beat Vassar, and also has what's now proven to be a critical win against Cortland.  Vassar just knocked of Rochester, which holds quite a bit of weight.   SLU only has 1 game remaining, while Vassar and Skidmore have 2.  To qualify all SLU needs to do is beat clarkson and have Skidmore or Vassar draw with Bard/Union.  I think there's a decent chance Bard/Union gets a result against one of those teams, but this year all bets are off.

[Mr.Right]

That head to head win for SLU over Vassar might prove to be the difference. Vassar better make the LL Playoffs because they will not get a Pool C if they do not qualify IMO. RPI last year was a GIFT that will not happen again.