IIAC 2014

[Puerco Espin]

Dylan Milkent stayed in for the PK's against Luther last year.

Based on the fact that we haven't seen Elvert since October 4 against Buena Vista, my bet is Rothert stays with Roloff.

[Madhatter5]

Bigger question is: who takes the shots for each team?

I don't know if a lot of Wartburg followers are on this board but it would be nice to hear some incite from them since this is an IIAC thread and not a Loras thread.

[Durantula]

I'm guessing Wartburg will be playing angry this game. The last game they played had so many fouls that there was hardly a sustained amount of play. The key for Wartburg will be forcing Loras to play soccer and not let them play to their strength which is throwing free kicks and throw-ins into the box. Saying that, I am sure that it will still be an extremely physical game.

I thought the ref came into the game last time with the belief that it was going to be rough so he decided to call it ultra close right from the beginning. We'll see if it is the same this time around.

[OriginalStorm]

The key for Wartburg will be forcing Loras to play soccer ..

Hits it on the head right there...hard to sub 100 times if the ball is kept and not blasted out bounds.  Good soccer is still looking for a home in the IIAC. 

[KICKIN95]

The key for Wartburg will be forcing Loras to play soccer ..

Hits it on the head right there...hard to sub 100 times if the ball is kept and not blasted out bounds.  Good soccer is still looking for a home in the IIAC.

So your definition of "Good Soccer" apparently is knocking the ball around and looking pretty regardless of the outcome?  Ask Jamaica how that works.
Good Soccer is in the eye of the beholder, Loras is consistently one of the best teams in the country and is the best team in the North region.  Coach Rothert utilizes his players according to their strengths, in '07 & '08 they were a possession team that passed circles around their opponents.  in '12 & '13 his team was a mix of skill and counters with high pressure.  This year he plays with what he has, a few skilled players and a bunch of athletes that are good in the air.  I think he has done an exceptional job in spite of all the injuries the team has incurred (5 starters out at any given time).  This is why it is important to have a deep bench and that is exactly what he has.  Bottom line is that his teams get the job done year after year and it is to his credit that he is able to do this with the vastly different styles of players that have stepped on his field.   Talyor Swift quote of the day "Haters gonna hate, hate, hate & players gonna play, play, play 

[Homegrown Harry]

No you hit the nail on the head with Loras playing to their player's strengths.
From what I've watched of Wartburg, I can't really say that is true.
But, to their credit they have found success the past two years and I think this is from the fact that they are tapping into some markets/club teams that are competitive at a regional if not national level.
If (and this is a big if) Wartburg could get it together this year they are a legit elite 8 maybe final 4 team.
But again, they have been inconsistent, great wins 4/3 to 1 then scoreless ties with sub par teams not to mention that bad early loss to Webster.

[Sir Victor]

Wartburg 2, Duhawks 1
Azari and Nadeau score early..Fluegel puts a meaningless one in late.
Wartburg celebrates in the Rockbowl.

[Cheesehead Henry]

The key for Wartburg will be forcing Loras to play soccer ..

Hits it on the head right there...hard to sub 100 times if the ball is kept and not blasted out bounds.  Good soccer is still looking for a home in the IIAC.

So your definition of "Good Soccer" apparently is knocking the ball around and looking pretty regardless of the outcome?  Ask Jamaica how that works.

Nobody is doubting the success of Loras in the past year Kickin', so before you start spouting off how well they've played regardless of their kickball, that has nothing to do with the original post you quoted. He mentioned them playing a non-pretty type of soccer. Which is true in my eyes. Loras plays kick and run soccer which has worked very well for them in the past years. Nobody is doubting that in the least bit. They just don't play much possession and that bothers some soccer watchers that prefer the "Jamaican" style of play with the ball actually on the ground for most of the game.

[/quote] Talyor Swift quote of the day "Haters gonna hate, hate, hate & players gonna play, play, play 
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Nobody is hating on them at all. Durantula was pointing out something that everybody has been talking about for years: Loras' love of kickball. It's not hating on them if we're pointing out the obvious. Also how can we hate when there is such obvious success that they've had? We're spurring conversation here with points that are true. Before we start accusing people of hating, step back and look at it from a non biased point of view.
The loras faithful sometimes have trouble of doing that. Just my thoughts, not trying to turn this thread into a NESCAC board with personal insults to anyone...

[Madhatter5]

I take offense to that Cheesehead. I've been down on the Loras all season. I've voiced it a few time but usually I keep it to myself as the Internet is negative as is without my help.

But I would have to agree with Kickin that Loras is playing with what they have whether it's hard to watch or not it's getting results.

I think what Durantula is saying though holds some truth but it's more stating the obvious, don't let the other team player their game. Any team looks to do that. At half they have not been able to do that really but they did get one at the end of the first with a few poor clearances with 6 seconds left.

Should be a interesting end to this second half/game.

[Puerco Espin]

Still trying to wrap my head around what we witnessed tonight ... Loras did not seem to have their "A-game". On the indirect free kick, it went 20 feet over the bar...then they weren't even close on the PK they earned minutes later.

Very physical and chippy game between two teams that clearly hate each other. Who knows, maybe these teams will meet again in the NCAA Tournament.

[KICKIN95]

Very important fact in the loras v wartburg result is that the game goes down as a tie and not a loss.  This will hurt much less than a regular time loss for selection purposes as well as hosting.
True loras didn't have their "A" game tonight,  but that's tough to do with 4 starters out with injuries ( now 5 with Moore).

[KICKIN95]

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Nobody is hating on them at all. Durantula was pointing out something that everybody has been talking about for years: Loras' love of kickball. It's not hating on them if we're pointing out the obvious. Also how can we hate when there is such obvious success that they've had? We're spurring conversation here with points that are true. Before we start accusing people of hating, step back and look at it from a non biased point of view.
The loras faithful sometimes have trouble of doing that. Just my thoughts, not trying to turn this thread into a NESCAC board with personal insults to anyone...
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Funny you says people have been pointing this out for years when last year was the first year they even started playing anything resembling "kickball".  Before 2013 Loras was a possession team that played high pressure, I can direct you to plenty of links from past seasons matches that would more than validate this point.

[Homegrown Harry]

I watched the Loras/Wartburg game.
It was a great game with both teams having a chance to win in regulation.
Why does it seem to me that the the Duhawk faithful seem to make excuses why they lost as opposed to give Wartburg some credit for playing a great game. ??

[PaulNewman]

I watched the last 3rd of this game and was very impressed with both teams.  High drama and tremendous competitive spirit.  Wartburg going ahead twice on the home field of the bitter rival and almost putting the game away, and Loras TWICE coming back from a goal down to level.  If I was a fan of either I would be touting both as great examples of how good these Iowa conference teams are.  Similar to the Kenyon-OWU deal, Wartburg needed to pull through in a game of this magnitude, and Loras will be absolutely fine and very difficult to knock out of the tournament.

[KICKIN95]

Sorry,  great game Wartburg. You can call it a loss and I am sure everyone else will as well including me, but I must point out again that according to the rules it isn't a loss, it is a tie.  I guarantee the players on both sides feel it as a win and a loss along with fans and parents, but I wasn't sticking my head in the sand, I was pointing out a very important fact now that the selection process is in motion and more importantly the hosting selection process. I didn't make the rule, I am the one relaying the info,  this same thing created a poop storm in 2007 when Loras "tied" Middlebury in the final four in a penalty shootout.  Loras finished the season 23-0-2,  many people had a problem with that and somehow tried to blame Loras and get upset with them for the decision.   These rules were put in place many years ago and for reasons I can't fully explain, but it is what it is and what it is is a tie.
As far as making excuses, well it's hard not to when you know a teams capabilities when running on all cylinders.  Missing four starters is tough, it is a fact as much as an excuse.  It doesn't make it any easier that it was Wartburg.  I say that in a tone of respect and distain  ,  I am positive the feeling is mutual from the Knights side as well.  There is no love lost between these squads and for me it goes back more than 20 years to when I played against them.  There are a few bonds between Loras and Wartburg, from former teammates becoming opposing coaches to best friends growing up playing against each other to friends found later in life that ironically played for them just after you graduated.  These two teams are the text book "bitter rivalry" and I don't see that changing anytime soon.