2014 D3 Season: National Perspective

[Domino1195]

let's see if we have one of those freakish situations where the ball is played by a defender and it curls back towards his goal . . .

[Mr.Right]

I hope so I need some high drama for this dreary afternoon

[Mr.Right]

it looks like OWU is going against the wind 1st half...Biggest rule of thumb in soccer is if you win the coin flip is always take the wind as you never know when it can change direction

[Mr.Right]

CNU attacking nicely with 5 but with the wind they need to take a chance and get a goal before the 1st half ends.

[wingtips2]

I hate to say it but when this sort of thing happens, moving venues this could turn into a Sunday-Monday affair or even Monday-Tuesday...They will most likely move it to the closest Turf field available but if traffic is stuck who knows.

This happened in 2002 Keene St sectional...Arcadia beat Keene st and Williams beat defending national champion Richard Stockton. They woke up to a ice storm and could not use Keene St field. Arcadia v Williams got moved to Southern CT State and Williams lost in PK's to a much weaker Arcadia side. One of Williams worst losses in an NCAA tournament

That was hardly a weak Arcadia team, they had white, degeorge, pocaroba, wimsey, etc - a bunch of guys I played with after school - and were more than deserving of a place in the elite 8

Yeah, that was a pretty darn good Arcadia side.  Their star rose and fell fairly quickly with their coach--name escapes me at the moment--moving on.  But for a few years with that group of players, they had a high-octane attack.

They also played in a shoe-box.   

The CM you are referring to is Tommy DeGeorge.  Had both he and Robbie White attended Arcadia for four years instead of transferring in from Manor College... they might have made a final four or kept the program on the map longer.  If you had to ask me who was a better player:  Jeremy Payne or Tommy DeGeorge... I'm going with Tommy.

That's a big statement - I love Tommy, but his mobility (or lack thereof) kept him from being truly dominant. 
As for the DeGeorge/White/Barry crew, they made the 8 as seniors - Pocoroba and Wimsey kept them competitive for a couple years after that, but they just didn't transition once Carlin left.

[Mr.Right]

#12,10 and 4 are legit for CNU..very entertaining game so far

[lastguyoffthebench]

I hate to say it but when this sort of thing happens, moving venues this could turn into a Sunday-Monday affair or even Monday-Tuesday...They will most likely move it to the closest Turf field available but if traffic is stuck who knows.

This happened in 2002 Keene St sectional...Arcadia beat Keene st and Williams beat defending national champion Richard Stockton. They woke up to a ice storm and could not use Keene St field. Arcadia v Williams got moved to Southern CT State and Williams lost in PK's to a much weaker Arcadia side. One of Williams worst losses in an NCAA tournament

That was hardly a weak Arcadia team, they had white, degeorge, pocaroba, wimsey, etc - a bunch of guys I played with after school - and were more than deserving of a place in the elite 8

Yeah, that was a pretty darn good Arcadia side.  Their star rose and fell fairly quickly with their coach--name escapes me at the moment--moving on.  But for a few years with that group of players, they had a high-octane attack.

They also played in a shoe-box.   

The CM you are referring to is Tommy DeGeorge.  Had both he and Robbie White attended Arcadia for four years instead of transferring in from Manor College... they might have made a final four or kept the program on the map longer.  If you had to ask me who was a better player:  Jeremy Payne or Tommy DeGeorge... I'm going with Tommy.

That's a big statement - I love Tommy, but his mobility (or lack thereof) kept him from being truly dominant. 
As for the DeGeorge/White/Barry crew, they made the 8 as seniors - Pocoroba and Wimsey kept them competitive for a couple years after that, but they just didn't transition once Carlin left.

In general, the pace is the only category that would put Payne ahead of Deg.   Between his free kicks and the ability to distribute against the grain...  He was a very special player.   

[Mr.Right]

I like CNU skill and team speed but they are over matched in the air. #11 for OWU should be playing for Ohio State. He has a D1 players build

[wingtips2]

I think OWU is a bit down this year but lets see what this game offers

they were in a down year when they won in '98, too....
their '99-'01 teams were better - especially the '00 vintage that lost to Linfield despite dominating and were denied the dream matchup against Messiah in the semis.  Van Horn, Hoffman, Miller, Ty, Dunlap...that was an outstanding squad.

[Mr.Right]

there 98 team was not a very good National Champion. They are athletic and have some skill but remind me of a Bowdoin or Middlebury from Nescac on steriods

[Mr.Right]

This ref is fit and all but is kind of a homer IMO

[Domino1195]

This ref is fit and all but is kind of a homer IMO

Got a phone call - missed the PK call - what was it?

[Mr.Right]

on the toilet if you cared. I have missed more goals(maybe 10) for getting drinks, bathroom breaks and staring at my white wall this tournament than I can rememeber

[Mr.Right]

With the monster wind advantage this game is hook line and sinker for OWU...OWU v Tufts and Wheaton v Oneonta...very interesting matchups

[wingtips2]

there 98 team was not a very good National Champion. They are athletic and have some skill but remind me of a Bowdoin or Middlebury from Nescac on steriods

iirc, they beat both trinity and williams on the way to the title.  but they also had the good fortune of playing every game at home...