2014 D3 Season: National Perspective

[Mr.Right]

We also know that the Tufts, Case and CMU games at home could have gone either way. From what I am hearing on Brockport, this should be a fun 4 team pod to watch.

[Christan Shirk]

Looking for suggestions for naming the four quadrants of the brackets for use on D3soccer.com's HTML brackets (see last year's here).

MEN
Oneonta-F&M-Brandeis-St. Lawrence (top left): _________________
Wheaton (Ill.)-Wartburg-Loras-Trinity (bottom left): _________________
Messiah-Cortland-Wheaton (Mass.)-Muhlenberg (top right): _________________
Kenyon-Calvin-Emory-Chris. Newport (bottom right): _________________  <--- this may require some creativity

WOMEN
Messiah-Nazareth-Lynchburg-Montclair St. (top left): _________________
Wheaton (Ill.)-Chicago-Washington U-Lake Forest (bottom left): _________________
Carnegie Mellon-Johns Hopkins-Trinity (tx.)-Thomas More (top right): _________________  <--- this may require some creativity
Williams-MIT-William Smith-Misericordia (bottom right): _________________

[PaulNewman]

Looks almost impossible...go by numbers (Quadrant 1, Quadrant 2, etc or by name of top seed...Messiah Bracket, etc)...OR

New England/New York
Northeast
Mideast or Midwest/Southeast
West or West/North

[PaulNewman]

We also know that the Tufts, Case and CMU games at home could have gone either way. From what I am hearing on Brockport, this should be a fun 4 team pod to watch.

Sure, ANYBODY could lose in the round of 32 except for Messiah, Oneonta, Trinity, and maybe Loras and Wheaton (Ill).  Brockport is tough and will take most teams to the wire but their season suggests they lose or tie in the big games (so maybe they get through on the Brandeis field via PKs).  Nobody says much about Brandeis' defense but they have one of the lowest goals against average in the country.

In hindsight, looks like those frenetic, hotly-contested last 25-30 minutes of Rochester vs CMU was for a bid.  Give UR a loss there and even with the shiny SOS they would be 8-6-3.

[Saint of Old]

Anybody can lose at anytime to anybody PERIOD.

[PaulNewman]

For the women...

Mid-Atlantic
Midwest
Mideast
Northeast (or New England)


An alternative to the using names of top seeds suggestion would be to use the region of the top seeds as the name...

Back in the old days the NCAA bball tournament used to be East, Mideast, Midwest and West Regionals (and maybe it's still like that)

[Mr.Right]

Oneonta St bracket-------Pool C Paradise
Messiah bracket----------14v1
Kenyon bracket-----------Who is my #1 seed?
Wheaton bracket----------How did I get placed here and why am I playing this team

[lastguyoffthebench]

In case anyone is interested the NIT has just announced their 16 team field with their final four to be held at Gaelic Park in the Bronx....

Top 4 seeds

Luther
John Carroll
Rutgers-Camden
Haverford

The other 12 teams

St Olaf
Elmhurst
Roanoke
CMU
Middlebury
Centre
Wesleyan
Kalamazoo
UW-O
Colorado Coll
Willamette
Wabash

First 4 out -- Williams, Santa Cruz, Puget Sound, Lycoming

Geez, I forgot WPI....someone's got to get bumped out.

You would think the ECAC regions would have an ultimate winner after all is said and done...  It is comprised of 3 regions, so their should be a final weekend with the New England, Metro/Upstate, and South winner (1 wild card perhaps)...  OR just get another region together somewhere in the Midwest/West

Metro/Upstate
No. 8 The Sage Colleges (9-7-1) at No. 1 Rutgers University-Camden (13-8-1), 6:00 p.m.
No. 7 Alfred University (9-7-3) at No. 2 Drew University (9-5-6), 6:00 p.m.
No. 6 Centenary College (12-7-1) at No. 3 Richard Stockton College (11-5-5), 7:30 p.m.
No. 5 William Paterson (9-8-2) at No. 4 New York University (11-6), 7:00 p.m

Can see a Stockton vs Camden final here.

New England Region
No. 8 Lesley University (10-6) at No. 1 Norwich University (13-6)
No. 7 Elms College (9-8) at No. 2 Endicott College (9-7)
No. 6 Curry College (10-9) at No. 3 Bridgewater State University (10-8)
No. 5 Albertus Magnus College (11-6) at No. 4 Colby Sawyer College (11-6)

I guess none of the NESCAC teams applied for this...  No exciting matchups on this slate.


South
No. 8 Cabrini (13-7-0) at No. 1 Penn State Harrisburg (12-5-1)
No. 7 Widener (10-6-1) at No. 2 Grove City College (12-5-1)
No. 6 Marywood (10-4-4) at No. 3 Misericordia (12-6-2)
No. 5 Swarthmore (9-6-3) at No. 4 Alvernia (11-6-2)

How does Swat get placed as a 5 seed?  Cabrini the 8th seed that ruined Camden's season, but won't beat PSU-H.   Swat should take this one down.   Haven't seen Miseri this year, but they went to PKs with MSU last year in the dance...   How long ago was it when Grove City tied Messiah? 


Is there another organization within the NCAA for the teams out in Midwest/West?

I'd be happy with a Kzoo, Camden, RPI, John Carroll, Wesleyan or Middlebury, Centre, UW-O, Haverford, Luther, and Elmhurst as well in the mix.     7 v 10,  8 v 9 as a play in.

[D3Soceerfan]

I understand Messiah is the favorite, but I think whoever gets out of the Babson/Cortland pod could give them a real test in the Sweet 16.

Babson is one of the hottest teams in the country and should not be overlooked by anybody. (assuming they get by Rutgers-Newark)

Also, Brandeis is very good and extremely talented in the middle of the field. I expect them to reach the Elite 8 or even potentially the Final 4 (Oneonta is the best team ive seen all year)

[wingtips2]

Let's Literally Go.

Final Four Prediction:

Brandeis
Chicago
Messiah
Emory

I'm going to predict that 3 of your choices do not make it - the UAA has underachieved for years and they are not getting three of the final 4.

[lastguyoffthebench]

Let's Literally Go.

Final Four Prediction:

Brandeis
Chicago
Messiah
Emory

I'm going to predict that 3 of your choices do not make it - the UAA has underachieved for years and they are not getting three of the final 4.

Two have made the final four in the last 30 years.    I forget the Elite 8 numbers, but I think we're only talking about 5 or 6 in the last 15 years.   

Emory might not even get by Covenant... 

Can't see Chicago getting passed UWW or Wheaton

Brandeis/Rochester pod is just a crapshoot...  Hard to see one of the reach the final 4, but that's the UAAs best bet to reach it.

[1970s NESCAC Player]

20+ Club

Messiah (25)
Babson (23) -- this surprised me

NCAC, perhaps you are too young, but Babo was the original D3 soccer powerhouse . . .  Their tradition has endured.

[wingtips2]

20+ Club

Messiah (25)
Babson (23) -- this surprised me

NCAC, perhaps you are too young, but Babo was the original D3 soccer powerhouse . . .  Their tradition has endured.

They've got a few nat'l titles under their belts. 

[wingtips2]

Sweet 16
Oneonta/F&M
Brandeis/SLU

UWW/Wartburg
Loras/Trinity

Messiah/Babson
Dickinson/Muhls

Kenyon/Calvin
Whitworth/CN

Elite 8
F&M/SLU
Wartburg/Trinity
Messiah/Muhl
Kenyon/CN

Final 4
SLU/Trinity
Messiah/Kenyon

Final
Trinity 1 - Kenyon 3

[chelseafc30]

Sweet 16
Oneonta/F&M
Brandeis/SLU

UWW/Wartburg
Loras/Trinity

Messiah/Babson
Dickinson/Muhls

Kenyon/Calvin
Whitworth/CN

Elite 8
F&M/SLU
Wartburg/Trinity
Messiah/Muhl
Kenyon/CN

Final 4
SLU/Trinity
Messiah/Kenyon

Final
Trinity 1 - Kenyon 3

I like this except I think F&M would beat SLU.