2014 D3 Season: National Perspective

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njf1003

Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on November 16, 2014, 07:16:11 PM
If I have to hear one more time how wet or rainy it is at F&M right now, I may not watch another broadcast with the sound on ever again.
Well I guess you are done watching broadcasts with sound...
Off to PKs in Lancaster with a rainy, wet field.

Sherlock Holmes


Mr.Right

#1442
Live Table:

UAA-           4-2-1     1 team in Sweet 16
Nescac        4-1-1     2 teams in Sweet 16
Centennial   3-1-1      2 teams in Sweet 16
Sunyac        3-1-0      2 teams in Sweet 16
IIAC             3-0-1     2 teams in Sweet 16
Newmac       1-3-0     Heavily over ranked tams in Regional ranking.

In New England Midd and Wesleyan deserved a better RR. The Newmac and the rankings were a mess.
Did Haverford deserve a 4th CC bid
Luther should have at least been ranked but they did not get any results against Loras or Wartburg

njf1003

F&M moves on in PKs.
Always glad to see it end with the goalie stopping the kicks rather than the kicks going wide.
(But those PKs were not at all pretty!)

lastguyoffthebench


Only 1 UAA team in the sweet 16, Mr. Right.

NJAC with a bad showing.  I thought Stevens might have been on all cylinders until CNU had that second half...

I think Rutgers-Camden would have fared better than Newark and Salisbury, but when you lose to teams like Cabrini and Rowan... you're not making it to the dance.



Oneonta St hosting?  Messiah?  Wheaton? and Kenyon or OWU?

PaulNewman

Domino, you're losing a little credibility.  Justice didn't  play at all.  18 had a great game and also a goal and an assist yesterday.

And you keep mentioning the Capital game that Kenyon won 5-1, and the Cap goal came off a counter where the weak PK call was against a player not on the back line.  Sure, they ain't perfect, but they must be decent given the lowest GAA in the country.

lastguyoffthebench


And yes, I think Haverford was deserving of a bid (but not ahead of John Carroll).

Mr.Right

Messiah will not host cause of the even / odd years. Looks like Muhlenberg, Oneonta, Kenyon and Wheaton

Flying Weasel

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 16, 2014, 07:44:36 PM

And yes, I think Haverford was deserving of a bid (but not ahead of John Carroll).

With at-large berths, should you reward the teams that had the best seasons OR invite the teams playing the best at the end of the season in order to make the best, most competitive tournament?  It's a valid question.  Given how formulaic the committee seems to be using a small set of quantifiable data that covers the whole season, they very cl0aerly seem to reward the best seasons, not best teams at the time of the tournament.  (BTW, the manual gives them liberty to give extra weight the final 25% of the season, but I have never sensed that that made much of a difference,)

lastguyoffthebench


Looking like the Sweet 16 match-ups of Brandeis vs Amherst and Tufts vs Mules are OT/PK bound...


Does anyone have a link or clip of the CNU goal vs Lynchburg?

Sherlock Holmes

When it comes to determine sectional hosts, are they more apt to use Muhlenberg (the higher "seed" or ranked team in the pod) or will they go for the more centralized team to save money? Does one weigh more than the other?

Mr.Right

Usually $$$$ but on the east coast it usually is the higher seed because it is not much of a difference

Flying Weasel

Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on November 16, 2014, 07:58:35 PM
When it comes to determine sectional hosts, are they more apt to use Muhlenberg (the higher "seed" or ranked team in the pod) or will they go for the more centralized team to save money? Does one weigh more than the other?

Doesn't Muhlenberg win on both counts? 

After Messiah they probably are the highest seed of the other three.
   Muhlenberg: 14-1-2 (.882), .568 SOS, 6-1-0 Record vs. Ranked
   Cortland St: 14-4-1 (.763), .547 SOS, 3-2-1 Record vs. Ranked
   Tufts: 10-2-4 (.750), .576 SOS, 1-1-2 Record vs. Ranked

And for centrality, Muhlenberg is slightly closer (311 mi.) for Tufts than Cortland St. (329 mi.), and with Messiah close to Muhlenberg, there's no doubt that Muhlenberg means the fewest total miles traveled.  But all being within 500 miles of each other, means technically any one of the schools could host from a geography standpoint pushing it back to highest seed.

KnightFalcon

I wonder if Messiah has a say in the location since they won't be able to host. They played at Muhlenberg in 2010 tourny for the same reason as this year and if I recall, it was only an hour away. I'm sure they would prefer that over a trip to Cortland or Tufts

Sherlock Holmes

Ah. I had no idea Muhlenberg was closer to Tufts than Cortland was. Guess I should've checked the googles. The more you know...

That's an interesting question KnightFalcon. I would guess they probably express their opinion, but it's probably not very high on the list of the committee's reasoning. But there's no experience to back that up, just a guess.