2014 D3 Season: National Perspective

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KnightFalcon

Quote from: convict on November 27, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
Doesn't most every team video anyways? Especially in the NCAA tournament. With the roster game max of 22 most teams at this level have to "cut" a few players for the games. They still bring them. We always had every game taped for im guessing the last ten years as a program. Be a nice goal to see!
I just saw some game video  - from the fans side of the field so opposite of what the Muhlenberg video feed was showing. If you recall, the sequence started from a free-kick from about 25-30 yards out to the left (looking in) of the left post. That kick was actually pretty sharp - driven hard and dropped right on the far corner of the 6 yard box and that is where most of the players converged. Messiah got a good clear (header it looked like), but the goalie went over there to get it and went down on his knees. So after the clear, he had to scramble back up and back to the middle of the goal. The clear went out to the 18 where it bounced twice and set up perfectly for Kayne to step into and time a perfect half-volley with no one around him. Credit to him for staying focused and executing because it was a "lollipop" that he could have easily blasted over the top. Goalie was off the goal line at the 6 and got a hand on it before it dipped just under the crossbar and above the Messiah defender standing on the goal line. Actually well-executed by both sides but that "moment of quality" by Kayne was the difference.

Nutmeg

Quote from: KnightFalcon on November 27, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: convict on November 27, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
Doesn't most every team video anyways? Especially in the NCAA tournament. With the roster game max of 22 most teams at this level have to "cut" a few players for the games. They still bring them. We always had every game taped for im guessing the last ten years as a program. Be a nice goal to see!
I just saw some game video  - from the fans side of the field so opposite of what the Muhlenberg video feed was showing. If you recall, the sequence started from a free-kick from about 25-30 yards out to the left (looking in) of the left post. That kick was actually pretty sharp - driven hard and dropped right on the far corner of the 6 yard box and that is where most of the players converged. Messiah got a good clear (header it looked like), but the goalie went over there to get it and went down on his knees. So after the clear, he had to scramble back up and back to the middle of the goal. The clear went out to the 18 where it bounced twice and set up perfectly for Kayne to step into and time a perfect half-volley with no one around him. Credit to him for staying focused and executing because it was a "lollipop" that he could have easily blasted over the top. Goalie was off the goal line at the 6 and got a hand on it before it dipped just under the crossbar and above the Messiah defender standing on the goal line. Actually well-executed by both sides but that "moment of quality" by Kayne was the difference.

Yes, that's what I saw on the live feed. It was a side volley from about 5 yards out of the box. The goalie got a couple of fingers on it but it was heading for the upper 90 anyway....the goal we should call the "Giant Slayer".....KF, is there anyway you can post the footage somewhere? As I said before, it happened so fast I would like to see it again....

convict

Sounds like a similar goal we should've had a few years back in the beginning of the tournament, 1st round. It got by the goalkeeper but a defender happened to go back to the goal line and head it out. Just sort of knew at that point it wasn't our day and lost 2-0 at that point. Why finishing every chance afforded is so important when you have them or you head home.

Brother Flounder

"the goal we should call the "Giant Slayer"...pretty appropriate for that game and opponent!

Brother Flounder

Does the NCAA pick an all-tournament team?

KnightFalcon

Quote from: Brother Flounder on November 28, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Does the NCAA pick an all-tournament team?
They do - will be announced on the field immediately at the conclusion of the final next Saturday after the team and player trophies are distributed. That includes an offensive and a defensive MVP. But I believe it is limited to members of the final 4 teams.

Brother Flounder

Quote from: KnightFalcon on November 28, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: Brother Flounder on November 28, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Does the NCAA pick an all-tournament team?
They do - will be announced on the field immediately at the conclusion of the final next Saturday after the team and player trophies are distributed. That includes an offensive and a defensive MVP. But I believe it is limited to members of the final 4 teams.

Any thoughts so far?

KnightFalcon

Well, they split it fairly evenly across the 4 teams so each team should get 2-3. I'd say Kayne, Hoppenot and Halliday from Tufts from what I saw against Messiah - maybe one of their center backs too. Santos could have a big game or 2 in KC as well. Bloecher and Pang (I think he is their center back) have looked sharp from OWU. And from Wheaton, I'd say Golz, Hollingsworth, Blackmon and Borges are candidates. Noah Anthony too if he scores a goal or two in the final 4 - he's deadly on free kicks. Don't know Oneonta well enough this year to pick any names.

Flying Weasel

From the 2014-15 Host Operations Manual:
QuoteAn All-Tournament Team will be selected by the games committee at the championship
finals site only. Eleven individuals will be selected by the men's or women's committee
based on the individual's performance during the semifinal and/or championship games
There are no position limitations on the all-tournament team. Of the 11 athletes on the all-
tournament team, one will be named the outstanding offensive player and another will be
named the outstanding defensive player of the championships.

That's the official policy on the All-Tournament team.

The average distribution is 2 players each from the semifinalists, 3 from the runner-up, and 4 from the champions, but it varies.  Last year the Capital women only got one player honored, but I think that's a first under the current policies.  They've actually honored 12 players at times.  Last year Rutgers-Camden, as runner-up got four honorees pushing the team to 12 players.  On the women's side last year, despite Capital only having one player honored, 12 players were honored as champion William Smith had five players honored and runner-up Trinity (Tx.) four.

As I've been told, the NCAA committee asks the four coaches to pick which of their players they want to have honored.  Maybe the reason that the teams exceed 11 players some times is that the committee really wants to honor a player not selected by their coach, I don't know.

Nutmeg

Quote from: KnightFalcon on November 28, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: Brother Flounder on November 28, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Does the NCAA pick an all-tournament team?
They do - will be announced on the field immediately at the conclusion of the final next Saturday after the team and player trophies are distributed. That includes an offensive and a defensive MVP. But I believe it is limited to members of the final 4 teams.

So, is it based on just on the weekend games or the whole tournament performance?

Flying Weasel

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Quote from: Nutmeg on November 29, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
So, is it based on just on the weekend games or the whole tournament performance?

Well, if you look at the excerpt I included in the post above yours, it's to be based on just the semifinals and final.  But if it's true that the coaches virtually decide their honorees, than who knows what all really gets factored in.

Nutmeg

Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 29, 2014, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: Nutmeg on November 29, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
So, is it based on just on the weekend games or the whole tournament performance?

Well, if you look at the except I included in the post above yours, it's to be based on just the semifinals and final.  But if it's true that the coaches virtually decide their honorees, than who knows what all really gets factored in.

thanks, FW!

oldonionbag

Quote from: KnightFalcon on November 27, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: convict on November 27, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
Doesn't most every team video anyways? Especially in the NCAA tournament. With the roster game max of 22 most teams at this level have to "cut" a few players for the games. They still bring them. We always had every game taped for im guessing the last ten years as a program. Be a nice goal to see!
I just saw some game video  - from the fans side of the field so opposite of what the Muhlenberg video feed was showing. If you recall, the sequence started from a free-kick from about 25-30 yards out to the left (looking in) of the left post. That kick was actually pretty sharp - driven hard and dropped right on the far corner of the 6 yard box and that is where most of the players converged. Messiah got a good clear (header it looked like), but the goalie went over there to get it and went down on his knees. So after the clear, he had to scramble back up and back to the middle of the goal. The clear went out to the 18 where it bounced twice and set up perfectly for Kayne to step into and time a perfect half-volley with no one around him. Credit to him for staying focused and executing because it was a "lollipop" that he could have easily blasted over the top. Goalie was off the goal line at the 6 and got a hand on it before it dipped just under the crossbar and above the Messiah defender standing on the goal line. Actually well-executed by both sides but that "moment of quality" by Kayne was the difference.

Knight Falcon- any idea where we could view the goal? I would love to see it!

wingtips2

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 25, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
I never suggested Tufts played more "competitive" games whatever that means but do you really think OWU wins in 2011 if Messiah did not get knocked out? When was the last time OWU beat Messiah...right never...Tufts just beat them so that might trump all your "competitive games"
but Messiah DID get knocked out - hence OWU was NATIONAL CHAMPION. 
And OWU has beaten Messiah before (not in the last 5 years), but it has happened - and in the tourney for that matter.

wingtips2

Quote from: Midwest Soccer on November 26, 2014, 08:20:50 AM
Also, Calvin goes to the national title game in '09, then elite 8 in '10, then national title game again in '11 and they don't make your list?
Hard to believe...