2014 D3 Season: National Perspective

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PaulNewman

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Looked at the NSCAA All-Region teams.  We know there can seem be little rhyme or reason for some of the picks, but glaring omissions in Great Lakes Region in my view are Carney from Kenyon (can't imagine a stronger left back in the region), Clougher from Kenyon (top GK stats in the nation most of the year), and Austin Juniet from Thomas More (4-5 Thomas More players made it but not him and he was one of the best players I saw all year long).  Interestingly, Amolo only made honorable mention for NCAC but is a 1st team All-Region selection.  Maybe somewhere in the middle there is a little more accurate.

Brother Flounder

Quote from: NCAC New England on December 11, 2014, 02:00:16 PM
Looked at the NSCAA All-Region teams.  We know there can seem be little rhyme or reason for some of the picks, but glaring omissions in my view are Carney from Kenyon (can't imagine a stronger left back in the region), Clougher from Kenyon (top GK stats in the nation most of the year), and Austin Juniet from Thomas More (4-5 Thomas More players made it but not him and he was one of the best players I saw all year long).  Interestingly, Amolo only made honorable mention for NCAC but is a 1st team All-Region selection.  Maybe somewhere in the middle there is a little more accurate.

Yes, there are some glaring omissions. The voting happens before the tourney which I think is a mistake also.....

oldonionbag

Agreed BF. Look at our national champions in Tufts- just 2 players on all region teams (and one is 4th team, Hoppenot).  Williams is deserving of 1st team. I think Kayne or Santos could be 1st (maybe 2nd) team, as well. Keeper Greenwood was OUTSTANDING the entire year, as was the other CB, Peter Kramer, and could both be recognized on 2nd or 3rd team. Heck, even Connor Brown and Rui Pinherio were deserving of 3rd or 4th team, IMHO. Really think it's a shame they were all left off. Voting should take place after the tournament.

As someone who ended up watching a lot of Tufts games by default thru NESCAC and the tournament, I'm surprised they only had two players make it.

Brother Flounder

Quote from: oldonionbag on December 11, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
Agreed BF. Look at our national champions in Tufts- just 2 players on all region teams (and one is 4th team, Hoppenot).  Williams is deserving of 1st team. I think Kayne or Santos could be 1st (maybe 2nd) team, as well. Keeper Greenwood was OUTSTANDING the entire year, as was the other CB, Peter Kramer, and could both be recognized on 2nd or 3rd team. Heck, even Connor Brown and Rui Pinherio were deserving of 3rd or 4th team, IMHO. Really think it's a shame they were all left off. Voting should take place after the tournament.

As someone who ended up watching a lot of Tufts games by default thru NESCAC and the tournament, I'm surprised they only had two players make it.
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Spot on... I just posted this in another topic on this:

I think this voting occurs pretty early. Wish it took place after the NCAA tourney.  I would like to have seen a few more from Tufts since they won the NCAA, like Kayne, Santos, Kramer, Brown, or Pinheiro, etc......

Brother Flounder

Oh, I forgot Greenwood..a pivotal link in Tufts championship.... Yes Kayne and/or Santos should have been on first team (both for NESCAC and All-Region), given Tufts success.  Some weight should go into the choices if you are National Champs or make it far into the tourney. It's an extremely hard feat to accomplish....and I say this without taking away from the other choices.  I watched the Tufts OWU game on the computer and the Tufts midfield completely handled the OWU midfield and its all-american....and did well against Wheaton's midfield who had 2 all-americans.....

Gregory Sager

Quote from: D3soccerwatcher on December 10, 2014, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: NCAC New England on December 09, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
I could be wrong but I think the circle up with the opposing team at the end of games is standard operating procedure for most or all strongly religious-affiliated schools.

I've seen Wheaton do this at every game I've been at over the past several years.  Grove City College also does this at all their games.  Messiah College does not.

North Park doesn't do it, either. We could discuss the pros and cons of why some evangelical Christian schools have their sports teams offer a postgame prayer in the middle of the field or court after a game (whether for one team or both teams) and why some don't, but it's probably not a discussion that would interest most people.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Nutmeg

Quote from: Brother Flounder on December 11, 2014, 04:25:46 PM
Oh, I forgot Greenwood..a pivotal link in Tufts championship.... Yes Kayne and/or Santos should have been on first team (both for NESCAC and All-Region), given Tufts success.  Some weight should go into the choices if you are National Champs or make it far into the tourney. It's an extremely hard feat to accomplish....and I say this without taking away from the other choices.  I watched the Tufts OWU game on the computer and the Tufts midfield completely handled the OWU midfield and its all-american....and did well against Wheaton's midfield who had 2 all-americans.....

I would tend to agree with this....

Corazon

Anyone know who gets to vote for the NSCAA picks?  Appears to be done by coaches, but does each school get a vote?  Do all coaches actually vote?

NEPitch62

Unsure who picks the regional teams but I'm floored that Greenwood from Tufts doesn't even make the top four teams.  Who are these judges?

Mr.Right

Coaches pick and sometimes not all coaches vote or coaches in a very weak league will all vote for a  player that is considered a star in their league but very average everywhere else

Nutmeg

Quote from: Mr.Right on December 11, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
Coaches pick and sometimes not all coaches vote or coaches in a very weak league will all vote for a  player that is considered a star in their league but very average everywhere else

Sounds like a popularity contest as opposed to merit.... As mentioned above, they should vote after the tourney....

blooter442

All-American teams are out.

First Team
Pos   Name   Class   School   Hometown
K   Matt Cardone*   Sr.   Trinity (Texas)    San Antonio, Texas
D   Harry Copeland   Jr.   St. Lawrence    Dedham, Mass.
D   Bill Kerr   So   Lycoming   Bowie, Md.
D   Carter Robbins*   Sr.   Messiah   Randleman, N.C.
M   Logan Andryk **   Jr.   Milwaukee Engineering   Hartland, Wis.
M   Luke Finklestein    Sr.   Wheaton (Mass.)   Peabody, Mass.
M   Marshall Hollingsworth*   Jr.   Wheaton (Ill.)   Libertyville, Ill.
M   Dylan Williams   Jr.   SUNY Oneonta   Monroe, N.Y.
F   Jeremy Payne**   Sr.   Messiah   Middleburg, Pa.
F   Michael Ramos   Sr.   Whitworth   Spokane, Wash.
F   Tyler Savonen   Sr.   Brandeis   Orleans, Mass.
F   Travis Vegter*   Sr.   Calvin   Hudsonville, Mich.

Second Team
Pos   First   Class   School   Hometown
K   Richard Burns   Sr.   United States Coast Guard Academy   Long Beach, Calif.
D   Matthew Bray   Sr.   Whitworth   Spokane, Wash.
D   Tom Carwile   Jr.   Trinity (Texas)    Tulsa, Okla.
D   Conor Lanahan   Jr.   Brandeis   Avon, Conn.
D   Daniel Peckham   Jr.   SUNY Morrisville   Webster, N.Y.
M   Colton Bloecher*   Sr.   Ohio Wesleyan   Lewis Center, Ohio
M   Elliot Borge   Jr.   Wheaton (Ill.)   Western Springs, Ill.
M   Caleb Cole    So   Gordon   Coatesville, Pa.
M   Marc Dinkel   Sr.   Roanoke   Basel, Switzerland
F   Raphael Araujo    Sr.   Rutgers-Newark   North Plainfield, N.J.
F   Jalon Brown**   Sr.   Christopher Newport   Yorktown, Va.
F   Eric Giovagnoli   Sr.   Eastern (Pa.)   Royersford, Pa.
F   Bastian Jedliczka   Jr.   Birmingham-Southern   Furstenfeld, Austria
F   Jake Sutherland   Jr.   SUNY Oneonta   Syracuse, N.Y.
F   Lucas Terci*   Jr.   Montclair State   Union, N.J.

Third Team
Pos   First   Class   School   Hometown
K   Niko Giantsopoulos   Jr.   Calvin   Markham, Ont.
D   Sean Broekhuizen   Sr.   Calvin   Grand Rapids, Miich.
D   Ben Bratt    Sr.   Wesleyan   Winchester, Mass.
D   Alex Dean    Sr.   Thomas More   Fort Thomas, Ky.
D   Samuel Justice    Sr.   Kenyon   Dexter, Mich.
D   Sam Williams    Sr.   Tufts   Thetford Center, Vt.
M   Adam Beek   Sr.   Skidmore    Kingston, Jamaica
M   Lance Dotzman   Sr.   Muhlenberg   Holland, Pa.
M   Justin Laurenzo   Sr.   Babson   Park Ridge, N.J.
M   David Lilly   Sr.   Gustavus Adolphus   Maple Grove, Minn.
F   Anthony Amolo   So   Kenyon   Lagos, Nigeria
F   Travis Blair    Sr.   Wheaton (Mass.)   Hastings, N.Y.
F   Greg Conrad   So   Middlebury   Peabody, Mass.
F   Stephen Golz   Jr.   Wheaton (Ill.)   River Forest, Ill.
F   Daniel Nadeau   Sr.   Wartburg   White Bear Lake, Minn.

I know some people might have qualms with Finkelstein making first-team, but I personally think he deserves it. Massively underrated player who really made everything tick for a good Wheaton side. Glad to see him get some recognition.

Also happy for Savonen of Brandeis, who works tirelessly and was the focal point of a fearsome attack. Got better every season. He'll be a big hole for the Judges to fill, but they return Lanahan at the back, who was a second-teamer. For me, Lanahan is the top CB in New England, and a major reason why the Judges did so well this season.

I have already voiced my disappointment that Santos wasn't in the running for All-American, but glad that Sam Williams was recognized. Top defender. I know I said Laurenzo shouldn't have been first team All-NE, but, in hindsight, 14 goals (many in big games) is very impressive and deserving of a third-team spot, as is Travis Blair's place.

Mr.Right

Newmac is over represented just a tad. Did Nescac coaches get the memo to vote.

My biggest qualm is the Nescac POY has always been a 1st r 2nd teamer.

Brother Flounder

"Did Nescac coaches get the memo to vote."

That's a funny one!   ::)