121st Monon Bell Classic

[Breckenridgebear]

It is starting to look like it might be a game up in Crawfordsdingle this year.

[BashDad]

It is starting to look like it might be a game up in Crawfordsdingle this year.

As opposed to three weeks ago, when y'all lost to OWU?

Save yourself the walk home in the third quarter: it will not be a game.

[Wabash Hokie]

It is starting to look like it might be a game up in Crawfordsdingle this year.

As opposed to three weeks ago, when y'all lost to OWU?

Save yourself the walk home in the third quarter: it will not be a game.

Yea - that OWU score knocked the wheels off of the Dannie bandwagon.   The good news is that DPU has a much better team and in beating them, so much the greater enjoyment.


BTW, word has it the some bells have gone missing from the Crawfordsville area.  The police think that a few enterprising Dannies, not knowing what the Monon Bell looks like, are stealing bells from wherever they can find them in hopes that one might be the elusive holy grail - the Monon Bell.  Hell, one Dannie was arrested over last week trying to kidnap a female railroad worker. He had the "Dan Quayle" disease and was trying to steal a Monon belle - hmmm do you spell that with an "e" Dan?


Looking forward to next week.  In the mean time, Wabash has their sights on a different group of Tigers.

[bashbrother]

This kid has had more time with the Bell than any Dannies have since you so graciously gave it to us for keeps on 11/14/2009.

http://youtu.be/9ayZy7kTXys

back to our regularly scheduled Witt Week... already in progress.

[Breckenridgebear]

Save yourself the walk home in the third quarter: it will not be a game.
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Sounds a lot like 2008 and 1998.

That is exactly what we want, self inflated hubris.  The best thing that can happen to DePauw is a Dabash win this weekend.

 

[firstdown]

Breckenridge Bear, I wouldn't cite 1998 as an example.  This was the great signal stealing scandal and it is a shameful, slimy blotch on DePauw.  Just like Lady MacBeth, this is a stain than won't ever wash away or be forgotten.  I have no doubt that your post will be on the wall of the LG locker room as motivation.

[wally_wabash]

Save yourself the walk home in the third quarter: it will not be a game.

Sounds a lot like 2008 and 1998.

That is exactly what we want, self inflated hubris.  The best thing that can happen to DePauw is a Dabash win this weekend.

This is probably the smartest thing the Bear, sorry daBear, is going to say in the next two weeks.  There is definitely history that works against the side that has already secured a game beyond week 11 (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010).

[firstdown]

Wally

You are being too kind to DaBear.  While there is a kernel of truth as you note, 2011 and 2002 stand in stark contrast to the others. 

[smedindy]

I still remember 1985 and 1986, when the Dannies had a playoff chance and we crushed them. Crushed. Them.

[Breckenridgebear]

Breckenridge Bear, I wouldn't cite 1998 as an example.  This was the great signal stealing scandal and it is a shameful, slimy blotch on DePauw.  Just like Lady MacBeth, this is a stain than won't ever wash away or be forgotten.  I have no doubt that your post will be on the wall of the LG locker room as motivation.

Signal stealing scandal? You boyzzz sure do like to make up excuses for a good old fashioned wood shedding.

If giving up 42 points is due to poor "signals", i.e. play calling, that were "stolen", you (and the rest of the tinfoil wearing cave boy conspiracy theorists) obviously failed to watch the game. And exactly which signals were stolen? Offense or defense?

If I am remembering correctly, DePauw (The Stigall/Simmons crew) out rushed Dabash something like 340 to 30. DePauw also won the turnover/takeaway margin (even if Hare spotted you boyzzz 7). DePauw also controlled the clock, time of possession, and conversions. If there really was a "shameful, slimy blotch on DePauw", Dabash must have, 1) had some real easy signals, 2) had a direct line of communication with the Tiger's sideline, or, 3) was not creative enough to hide what they were doing. I know it is a shock to you boyzzz, but most of football is trying to figure out what the other team is doing on each play, and preparing for that. If you prepare better, you win. Easy enough a caveman can do it.

The fact of the matter is an underdog DePauw team won big, and Wabash was looking ahead to the playoffs. I hope that history repeats itself.

     

[wally_wabash]

Wally

You are being too kind to DaBear.  While there is a kernel of truth as you note, 2011 and 2002 stand in stark contrast to the others.

They do.  2011 DePauw was borderline inept.  2002 DePauw wasn't by any means awful, but they ran into a Wabash team that hadn't lost since September 2001, and featured one Jake Knott at the absolute height of his Knott-ness.  That was really the year where Wabash made the move out of the "we're playing for the Monon Bell and that's really it every year" mode and into the "we want to play important games beyond this one" and that separation was evident in 2002. 

In 1998, what DePauw did was ****y and they shouldn't have done it, but they did.  They found a loophole and got one over on us.  As evident as it was as to what was going on so early in that game, not adjusting is on Wabash.  It's taken awhile, but I'm over that one now.  2010 was cathartic in that regard.  47-0. 

[firstdown]

DaBear

In 1998, it well documented, that you had a couple of spies who attended most, if not all of the Wabash games and carefully cataloged all the signals - both offensive and defensive that Wabash used.  For the Bell Game, by having this information, DePauw was essentially in the Wabash huddle for every play.  As Wally notes this was not against the rules of the old Indiana conference, but it was a slimy matter.  No question that DePauw got the better of Wabash that Bell Game and likely would have won that day without having to resort to such  tactics. 

Neither team can afford to overlook the other in the Bell Game.  As Wally notes, there are enough examples when that has happened.  1998 might have been a victory for DePauw, but it was hardly your finest hour.  The systematic signal stealing and the destructive post game riot are truly a nadir in a long standing and storied rivalry.  To this day, the security at the Bell Game is oppressive and takes away from the fun, and that is a legacy of 1998.

[Breckenridgebear]

DaBear

In 1998, it well documented, that you had a couple of spies who attended most, if not all of the Wabash games and carefully cataloged all the signals - both offensive and defensive that Wabash used.  For the Bell Game, by having this information, DePauw was essentially in the Wabash huddle for every play.  As Wally notes this was not against the rules of the old Indiana conference, but it was a slimy matter.  No question that DePauw got the better of Wabash that Bell Game and likely would have won that day without having to resort to such  tactics. 

Neither team can afford to overlook the other in the Bell Game.  As Wally notes, there are enough examples when that has happened.  1998 might have been a victory for DePauw, but it was hardly your finest hour.  The systematic signal stealing and the destructive post game riot are truly a nadir in a long standing and storied rivalry.  To this day, the security at the Bell Game is oppressive and takes away from the fun, and that is a legacy of 1998.

So DePauw was better prepared and won? Strange.

"Well documented"? I only hear words. Proof or it didn't happen.

"Security at the Bell Game is oppressive". I do agree it is overkill, but it was like that before 1998. I also think it is necessary when there are a bunch of Caveboyzz running around, governed only by some code, and not the laws of men. 

[wabndy]

"Well documented"? I only hear words. Proof or it didn't happen.

DePauw English majors-Yawn. Ok- so we are all up to speed 1998 was the first year after DPU left for "greener pastures" of the "superior competiton" (and frequent flyer miles) of the SCAC. It was the first nonconference game and not under ICAC (now HCAC) league rules which forbade live scouting of conference opponents. DPU live scouted every game. To say coach nick and Greg Carlson didnt take too kindly to each other would be a bit of an understatement. The game was a blowout. Wabash had won the conference championship the week before (we didn't get AQs until 1999). Wabash played poorly and did not respond well to the situation on the field. At halftime, the Wabash based chain crew who worked on the depauw side of the field warned Wabash coaches that they thought DPU knew all the plays. No adjustments were made. I believe the 7 points that Wabash did score were either a defensive td or a broken play or audible. Carlson filed a complaint against coach nick to the AFCA- who admitted that the scouting took place. No rules were technically broken. The AFCA dismissed the complaint and encouraged the schools to iron out all details in future game contracts. Carlson was shown the door two seasons later after losing the next two bell games and still stands as the #2 winningest football coach in Wabash history, one elusive win short of the #1 spot.

After dePauw wins in both 1996 and 1998 in Crawfordsville, depauw students stormed the field and tore down the goalposts. Wabash fans didn't take too kindly to that either and both fan sections had an opportunity to express their feelings about their opponents in a very up close and personal manner. If there ever was a low point of the rivalry, it was then. Fast forward to 2001, a miracle catch as time expired in greencastle sent the bell back north. Surprisingly, those of us celebrating in the end zone decided to leave the DPU goalposts alone.

[Caveman # 95]

Yet another summary smackdown of the dabear....so funny. I'm sure he reacts like this after every Wabash post:

http://youtu.be/YersIyzsOpc