FB: Region 6 fan poll

02 Warhawk · September 06, 2017, 02:38:42 PM

1) St. Thomas (3) 84 ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
2) UW-Oshkosh (5) 81 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 7)
3) St. John's 65 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5)
4) Linfield 53 ( 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, -)
5) UW-Platteville 47 ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 8, 9,10)
6) UW-Whitewater 45 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, -)
7) Whitworth 39 ( 3, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8) Redlands 21 ( 7, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, -, -)
9) Coe (1) 15 ( 1, 8, 9, -, -, -, -, -, -)
10) Monmouth 12 ( 4, 9, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -)

RV) Concordia-Moorhead 11 ( 7, 8, 9,10,10, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque 11 ( 8, 8, 9,10,10,10, -, -, -)
RV) Wartburg 5 ( 7,10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest 5 ( 6, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Lacrosse 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

wm4 · September 06, 2017, 03:00:28 PM

Quote from: HansenRatings on August 31, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
I would like to hear the argument for UWO being first. Yes, they made the Stagg Bowl, but they never avenged their loss to UWW, and the strength of their team (Defense, specifically the secondary) only returns one starter. Hard to justify them ahead of UST (UWO was +8 in turnover margin against UST last season, and only won by 3) or UWW (who returns twice as many starters, and beat UWO in their only matchup last year) to me.

Yes, UWO lost a lot on defense, but they returned a bunch on offense. So much so that I think they can outscore their defense in their big games.

HansenRatings · September 06, 2017, 11:03:42 PM

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 06, 2017, 02:38:42 PM

1) St. Thomas (3) 84 ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
2) UW-Oshkosh (5) 81 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 7)
3) St. John's 65 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5)
4) Linfield 53 ( 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, -)
5) UW-Platteville 47 ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 8, 9,10)
6) UW-Whitewater 45 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, -)
7) Whitworth 39 ( 3, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8) Redlands 21 ( 7, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, -, -)
9) Coe 15 ( 1, 8, 9, -, -, -, -, -, -)
10) Monmouth 12 ( 4, 9, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -)

RV) Concordia-Moorhead 11 ( 7, 8, 9,10,10, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque 11 ( 8, 8, 9,10,10,10, -, -, -)
RV) Wartburg 5 ( 7,10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest 5 ( 6, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Lacrosse 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

Whoa... I know I was a skeptic of UW-O as a 1st place team last week, but #7? That seems a bit low after winning a (more convincing that appears at first glance) game against a semifinalist from last season.

OzJohnnie · September 06, 2017, 11:15:14 PM

Quote from: HansenRatings on September 06, 2017, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 06, 2017, 02:38:42 PM

1) St. Thomas (3) 84 ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
2) UW-Oshkosh (5) 81 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 7)
3) St. John's 65 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5)
4) Linfield 53 ( 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, -)
5) UW-Platteville 47 ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 8, 9,10)
6) UW-Whitewater 45 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, -)
7) Whitworth 39 ( 3, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8) Redlands 21 ( 7, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, -, -)
9) Coe 15 ( 1, 8, 9, -, -, -, -, -, -)
10) Monmouth 12 ( 4, 9, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -)

RV) Concordia-Moorhead 11 ( 7, 8, 9,10,10, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque 11 ( 8, 8, 9,10,10,10, -, -, -)
RV) Wartburg 5 ( 7,10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest 5 ( 6, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Lacrosse 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

Whoa... I know I was a skeptic of UW-O as a 1st place team last week, but #7? That seems a bit low after winning a (more convincing that appears at first glance) game against a semifinalist from last season.

Wow. If UWO had been ranked 1st or 2cd like with all the other votes then it would be number 1 in the region. If it had been ranked 3 then they would have been first. Ranked fourth and they're in a tie.

It's almost as if there is some gamesmanship going on with these rankings. Integrity check, anyone?

doolittledog · September 06, 2017, 11:26:43 PM

Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 06, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: HansenRatings on September 06, 2017, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 06, 2017, 02:38:42 PM

1) St. Thomas (3) 84 ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
2) UW-Oshkosh (5) 81 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 7)
3) St. John's 65 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5)
4) Linfield 53 ( 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, -)
5) UW-Platteville 47 ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 8, 9,10)
6) UW-Whitewater 45 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, -)
7) Whitworth 39 ( 3, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8) Redlands 21 ( 7, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, -, -)
9) Coe 15 ( 1, 8, 9, -, -, -, -, -, -)
10) Monmouth 12 ( 4, 9, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -)

RV) Concordia-Moorhead 11 ( 7, 8, 9,10,10, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque 11 ( 8, 8, 9,10,10,10, -, -, -)
RV) Wartburg 5 ( 7,10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest 5 ( 6, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Lacrosse 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

Whoa... I know I was a skeptic of UW-O as a 1st place team last week, but #7? That seems a bit low after winning a (more convincing that appears at first glance) game against a semifinalist from last season.

Wow. If UWO had been ranked 1st or 2cd like with all the other votes then it would be number 1 in the region. If it had been ranked 3 then they would have been first. Ranked fourth and they're in a tie.

It's almost as if there is some gamesmanship going on with these rankings. Integrity check, anyone?

I'm wondering if the 1 voter that ranked Coe #1 was also the person that ranked Oshkosh #7. And I also wonder if they may have accidently got those two picks backwards.

OzJohnnie · September 07, 2017, 12:57:20 AM

Dang. Although I prefer the salacious intrigue of underhanded dealings, I think you've actually got it right, doolittledog.

It's a good poll, by the way. I like to check it out every week. So thanks to all who put time into it.

02 Warhawk · September 07, 2017, 08:19:14 AM

At first glance I suspected a troll among the group just having a little fun at this poll's expense...but after talking to the individual, he seems genuine. He's new to the D3 world so he's just getting his feet wet, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. His preseason poll was pretty consistent with everyone else's, but for some reason he put his Week 1 picks in a blender. We'll see how things go after next week's games.

Also, I picked up a 10th person, so we'll have a full committee (10 participants) starting in week 2.

HansenRatings · September 07, 2017, 08:36:07 AM

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 07, 2017, 08:19:14 AM
At first glance I suspected a troll among the group just having a little fun at this poll's expense...but after talking to the individual, he seems genuine. He's new to the D3 world so he's just getting his feet wet, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. His preseason poll was pretty consistent with everyone else's, but for some reason he put his Week 1 picks in a blender. We'll see how things go after next week's games.

Also, I picked up a 10th person, so we'll have a full committee (10 participants) starting in week 2.

Maybe he'll end up keeping us honest, pointing out our subconscious biases.

02 Warhawk · September 12, 2017, 03:36:33 PM

2017 Week 2 West Fan Poll

Rank Team Previous Points
1) UW-Oshkosh (9) 2 97
2) St. John's 3 84
3) Linfield 4 70
4) UW-Platteville 5 57
5) St. Thomas 1 55
6) Concordia-Moorhead NR 46
7) Whitworth 7 40
8) UW-Stout NR 28
9) Coe (1) 9 25
10) Redlands 8 19

Dropped Out: UW-Whitewater, Monmouth

RV) Dubuque (8), Wartburg (8), UW-Whitewater (7), Lake Forest (3), UW-La Crosse (2), UW-Stevens Point (1)

Thanks to those who participated this week: art76, wartnight, wm4, astro9046, doolittledog, desercat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScot, smedindy and 02 Warhawk.

02 Warhawk · September 12, 2017, 03:54:39 PM

1) UW-Oshkosh (9) 97 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4)
2) St. John's 84 ( 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4)
3) Linfield 70 ( 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, -)
4) UW-Platteville 57 ( 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, -, -)
5) St. Thomas 55 ( 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 9)
6) Concordia-Moorhead 46 ( 3, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 9,10)
7) Whitworth 40 ( 4, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9)
8) UW-Stout 28 ( 2, 4, 5, 8,10,10,10, -, -, -)
9) Coe (1) 25 ( 1, 6, 8, 8, 9,10,10, -, -, -)
10) Redlands 19 ( 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9,10, -, -)

RV) Dubuque 8 ( 7, 9,10,10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Wartburg 8 ( 6, 8, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Whitewater 7 ( 7, 8, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest 3 ( 8, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Lacrosse 2 ( 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Stevens Point 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

smedindy · September 14, 2017, 11:09:30 AM

Thanks for adding me. My biggest choice was making either Coe or Wartburg my #10. I still have UW-W ranked, but barely.

smedindy · September 20, 2017, 09:58:35 AM

Do we have a result this week.

02 Warhawk · September 20, 2017, 01:24:19 PM

2017 Week 3 West Fan Poll

Rank Team Previous Points
1) UW-Oshkosh (9) 1 95
2) St. John's 2 89
3) UW-Platteville 4 62
4) Concordia-Moorhead 6 57
5) St. Thomas 5 54
6) Linfield 3 53
7) Whitworth 7 48
8) UW-Stout 8 37
9) Coe (1) 9 24
10) Wartburg N/A 12

Dropped Out: Redlands

RV) UW-Whitewater (10), Dubuque (7), Lake Forest (1), Cal Lutheran (1)

Thanks to those who participated this week: art76, wartnight, wm4, astro9046, doolittledog, desercat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScot, smedindy and 02 Warhawk.

02 Warhawk · September 20, 2017, 01:25:07 PM

I'll post the poll's voting details probably tomorrow.

02 Warhawk · September 21, 2017, 03:53:56 PM

1) UW-Oshkosh (9) 95 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6)
2) St. John's 89 ( 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3) UW-Platteville 62 ( 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, -)
4) Concordia-Moorhead 57 ( 2, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7)
5) St. Thomas 54 ( 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 9, -)
6) Linfield 53 ( 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 8, 9)
7) Whitworth 48 ( 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8) UW-Stout 37 ( 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8,10, -, -)
9) Coe (1) 24 ( 1, 7, 9, 9, 9, 9,10,10, -, -)
10) Wartburg 12 ( 8, 8, 9,10,10,10,10, -, -, -)

RV) UW-Whitewater 10 ( 7, 8, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque 7 ( 8, 9, 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Cal Lutheran 1 (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)