FB: Region 6 fan poll

[02 Warhawk]

Baldini for the win 

[hazzben]

I'm happy to say that no one had Bethel ahead of St. John's.... So everyone recognized the H2H result. However, as you saw by the above results, yes someone has SJU 5th (with Bethel 6th).

I'll let him go into detail on his reasoning. I think he even touched on it last week in this thread. All though his intentions were kind of murky.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

100% ... It's what makes the fan poll fun.

As an outsider, my questions are common opponents, who did you beat, who did you lose to.

Central + SJU
- Common Opponents: Central beat St. Olaf on the road 46-27. Central with almost 600 yds of offense, but also gave up almost 400 yds of offense. SJU beat St. Olaf at home 56-0. Total dismantling with subs playing most of the second half.
- Who did you beat: Central beat Wartburg 49-24. SJU beat Bethel 31-25 and Aurora 39-33. SJU plays GAC Saturday, who beat Wartburg earlier this year.

IMO SJU looks better than Central in about every category. They could have scored 80+ on St. Olaf if they hadn't shut things down after the subs scored in the 3rd Quarter. Central looks like a very good team, but they have no marquee wins (albeit out of their control). But the result against a bad St. Olaf team and a down Wartburg team didn't move the needle (for me).

The other component that's interesting is the UWL, UWO, UWS, and even UWP. UWP's record looks terrible, but outside high margin losses to Bethel and UWW, they've lost crazy close games to some good teams (ETBU by 6, UWO by 3, UWL by 1 ... and we all know the story there). UWL seems to be living off their rep from a closer than expected 21 pt loss to D2 GVSU. The UWL v UWS game is interesting, but I actually think the second tier of the WIAC is down a bit this year.

[02 Warhawk]

Yeah the GVSU loss and knocking off UWO (typically a top 10 team) was huge for UWL. They're getting a lot of love in the polls for it.

WIAC, from top to bottom, is pretty much where they usually are. Always have a very good nonconference record (no exception this year) with the middle and low tier teams beating up on each other. Over half the conference is getting top 25 votes right now. UWP and UWO seem to be a little down this year, however Stout and UWRF seem to be a little better than usual. If the middle is a little down, then the bottom is little up. UWRF - usually a bottom feeder - is getting votes in the top 25, which is crazy. For the first time in over 20 years they've guaranteed themselves at least a .500 record.

Still lots of football to be played though, lots of things can still happen.

[Schipper Strong]

I'm happy to say that no one had Bethel ahead of St. John's.... So everyone recognized the H2H result. However, as you saw by the above results, yes someone has SJU 5th (with Bethel 6th).

I'll let him go into detail on his reasoning. I think he even touched on it last week in this thread. All though his intentions were kind of murky.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

100% ... It's what makes the fan poll fun.

As an outsider, my questions are common opponents, who did you beat, who did you lose to.

Central + SJU
- Common Opponents: Central beat St. Olaf on the road 46-27. Central with almost 600 yds of offense, but also gave up almost 400 yds of offense. SJU beat St. Olaf at home 56-0. Total dismantling with subs playing most of the second half.
- Who did you beat: Central beat Wartburg 49-24. SJU beat Bethel 31-25 and Aurora 39-33. SJU plays GAC Saturday, who beat Wartburg earlier this year.

IMO SJU looks better than Central in about every category. They could have scored 80+ on St. Olaf if they hadn't shut things down after the subs scored in the 3rd Quarter. Central looks like a very good team, but they have no marquee wins (albeit out of their control). But the result against a bad St. Olaf team and a down Wartburg team didn't move the needle (for me).

The other component that's interesting is the UWL, UWO, UWS, and even UWP. UWP's record looks terrible, but outside high margin losses to Bethel and UWW, they've lost crazy close games to some good teams (ETBU by 6, UWO by 3, UWL by 1 ... and we all know the story there). UWL seems to be living off their rep from a closer than expected 21 pt loss to D2 GVSU. The UWL v UWS game is interesting, but I actually think the second tier of the WIAC is down a bit this year.

Central gives up a lot of yards and points at the end of the games when the subs are in. We are averse to running up the score and starters play little after halftime. I really wish the starters had to play longer. They are only having to put forth a half of effort. That will hurt later in the year.

[02 Warhawk]

I'm happy to say that no one had Bethel ahead of St. John's.... So everyone recognized the H2H result. However, as you saw by the above results, yes someone has SJU 5th (with Bethel 6th).

I'll let him go into detail on his reasoning. I think he even touched on it last week in this thread. All though his intentions were kind of murky.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

100% ... It's what makes the fan poll fun.

As an outsider, my questions are common opponents, who did you beat, who did you lose to.

Central + SJU
- Common Opponents: Central beat St. Olaf on the road 46-27. Central with almost 600 yds of offense, but also gave up almost 400 yds of offense. SJU beat St. Olaf at home 56-0. Total dismantling with subs playing most of the second half.
- Who did you beat: Central beat Wartburg 49-24. SJU beat Bethel 31-25 and Aurora 39-33. SJU plays GAC Saturday, who beat Wartburg earlier this year.

IMO SJU looks better than Central in about every category. They could have scored 80+ on St. Olaf if they hadn't shut things down after the subs scored in the 3rd Quarter. Central looks like a very good team, but they have no marquee wins (albeit out of their control). But the result against a bad St. Olaf team and a down Wartburg team didn't move the needle (for me).

The other component that's interesting is the UWL, UWO, UWS, and even UWP. UWP's record looks terrible, but outside high margin losses to Bethel and UWW, they've lost crazy close games to some good teams (ETBU by 6, UWO by 3, UWL by 1 ... and we all know the story there). UWL seems to be living off their rep from a closer than expected 21 pt loss to D2 GVSU. The UWL v UWS game is interesting, but I actually think the second tier of the WIAC is down a bit this year.

Central gives up a lot of yards and points at the end of the games when the subs are in. We are averse to running up the score and starters play little after halftime. I really wish the starters had to play longer. They are only having to put forth a half of effort. That will hurt later in the year.

You just described most of the top 10 teams for the majority of their season.

[02 Warhawk]

Still waiting for two more entries. I'll post results tomorrow morning regardless.

[02 Warhawk]

      2021 Week 8 West Region Fan Poll

Rank      Team           Previous    Points       
1)   UW-Whitewater (7)     1          79 
2)   St. John's (1)        2          69     
3)   Linfield              3          66 
4)   Central               4          53 
5)   Bethel                5          50
6)   UW-LaCrosse           6          42
7)   UW-Oshkosh            7          30
8)   Whitworth             8          19
9)   Redlands              -          17
10)   UW-Stout              9           6   
   
Dropped Out: Chapman

RV)   UW-River Falls (4), Gustavus Adpolphus (2), CMS (2), UW-Platteville (1)

Thanks to all those who participated this week: 02 Warhawk, wm4, WW, art76, Retired Old Rat, Dr. Doolittle, desertcat1 and wartknight.

[02 Warhawk]

 
1)  UW-Whitewater (7)     79      ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2) 
2)  St. John's (1)        69      ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 5)
3)  Linfield              66      ( 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4)  Central               53      ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5)
5)  Bethel                50      ( 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6)
6)  UW-LaCrosse           42      ( 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
7)  UW-Oshkosh            30      ( 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8)
8)  Whitworth             19      ( 7, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9,10,10)
9)  Redlands              17      ( 6, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, -, -)
10)  UW-Stout               6      ( 8, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -)

RV)  UW-River Falls         4      ( 9,10,10, -, -, -, -, -)
RV)  Gustavus Adolphus      2      (10,10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV)  CMS                    2      ( 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV)  UW-Platteville         1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

[02 Warhawk]

If the votes seem low it's because we were down a couple of people this week...had to make do.

[wm4]

Good to see here in late October we now have more data points for NWC and SCIAC.  I will admit that I think I have underrated Whitworth to this point. 

[02 Warhawk]

      2021 Week 9 West Region Fan Poll

Rank      Team           Previous    Points       
1)   UW-Whitewater (8)     1          98 
2)   St. John's (1)        2          87     
3)   Linfield (1)          3          82 
4)   Central               4          67 
5)   Bethel                5          61
6)   UW-LaCrosse           6          55
7)   UW-Oshkosh            7          37
8)   Whitworth             8          27
9)   Redlands              9          20
10)   UW-River Falls        -           7   
   
Dropped Out: UW-Stout

RV)   UW-Stout (5), Lake Forest (2), Gustavus Adpolphus (1), Chapman (1)

Thanks to all those who participated this week: 02 Warhawk, wm4, WW, art76, Retired Old Rat, Dr. Doolittle, desertcat1, colinsteinke, TwoArmedScot and wartknight.

[02 Warhawk]

 
1)  UW-Whitewater (8)     98      ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2) 
2)  St. John's (1)        87      ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 5)
3)  Linfield (1)          82      ( 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4)
4)  Central               67      ( 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6)
5)  Bethel                61      ( 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6)
6)  UW-LaCrosse           55      ( 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6)
7)  UW-Oshkosh            37      ( 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8)  Whitworth             27      ( 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9,10)
9)  Redlands              20      ( 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9,10, -, -)
10)  UW-River Falls         7      ( 9,10,10,10,10,10, -, -, -, -)

RV)  UW-Stout               5      ( 9, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV)  Lake Forest            2      ( 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV)  Gustavus Adolphus      1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV)  Chapman                1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

[02 Warhawk]

Not much movement this week. I think almost half the pool (including myself) submitted the same top 10 as last week.

Only thing worth noting is for the second week in a row UWW lost a #1 vote.

[retagent]

Let's see. The AFCA and D3.com both rank SJU at #5 in the country. Yet somebody. who shall go unnamed, thinks they are only #5 in the Region.  C'mon Man!!

[hazzben]

Let's see. The AFCA and D3.com both rank SJU at #5 in the country. Yet somebody. who shall go unnamed, thinks they are only #5 in the Region.  C'mon Man!!

Yeah, that's a pretty brutal take (insert note about everyone being entitled to their wrong opinions  )