Mr.Rights Thoughts

[Corazon]

$51k seems really light to me for a head coaching job, especially when you factor in NJ's high tax rates and cost of living. How does this salary compare to other D3 coaching jobs, including the NESCAC?  Making a living with a sport you love can be a great way to live, but these guys are under quite a bit of pressure too.  I believe soccer coaches are considerably underpaid.

Separately, I was reading an article about basketball and UConn's Geno Aureiemma said that there are basically 2 types of coaches.  "Ones who can recruit and ones who get fired."  Thought it was interesting.

[Falconer]

Not all areas in NJ are that expensive, relative to national norms. Stockton is located in Galloway Twp, NJ, and here's what the numbers there look like: http://www.cityrating.com/cost-of-living/new-jersey/galloway.html

[Mr.Right]

Tons of jobs in New England are part time only. Some schools surprisingly so..MIT is part time and pays about 35,000 yr. That is why their most recent coach left for Washington and Lee or something like that and why Milton Gooding lasted only 5 years there. A bunch of the smaller NE schools all are part time. I believe the MASCAC league is all part time. WPI used to be part time. IT is pathetic.

Long serving Nescac coaches like Russo and Saward earn 100k-120k / year. Gooding at Amherst earned that but was also AD. Serpone earns maybe half of that but earns a fortune with his peak performance camps. Most of the other coaches are quite young and I would be surprised if they hit 50k. Pilger and Murphy possibly but I doubt Conn pays its coaches very well.

Even D1 coaches do not make much more..They make up their money in camps in the summer but even that is getting very saturated.

[Mr.Right]

51,000k for a young D1 assistant or promoted assistant from within for Stockton would be excellent money for a guy in his 30's coaching soccer. Your coaching for god's sake. You have some headaches but this is not Wall Street. You are usually enjoying heading to the office / field every day and are just so happy to be doing something you love every day. To me the biggest disaster is dealing with parents and recruiting. MONSTER HEADACHE for some of these coaches. Parents these days just believe their kids are better players than they really are and it can become a problem sometimes

[Corazon]

Thanks for the response, Mr. Right. As usual, you are full of interesting information that is vey difficult to obtain.

I think I would enjoy the recruiting part but would hate to have to deal with parents. Maybe it is just me, but do parents still try to meddle, even at the collegiate level?  These boys are adults. That is not cool.

Having anonymous people critiquing your work on Internet message boards wouldn't be too appealing either

[Corazon]

I think I would rather be a soccer coach making $50k than work on Wall Street or be a corporate lawyer. I have relatives who did both and they hit $750k/year in their early 30s. Both hate job and the Wall Street one ended up with divorce as he was rarely home. Corporate law is mind numbing boredom. I think once you have your basics covered (food, rent, etc), money is of lesser importance.

I guess the best of both worlds is to go make the serious bucks on Wall Street, then switch gears and coach soccer in the NESCAC. I believe the NESCAC has such a coach. Any guesses?

[lastguyoffthebench]

I'd definitely take the pay cut from the government job to be a FT college coach... I'm awesome at setting up tactics in FIFA, but as far as training sessions and developing real players... ehhh that's lacking.   I'll stick to reffing for the side job.

Mr.Right... always loves your "I don't give a sh!t, tell it like it is posts".  You're definitely in that 55-64 age range because you sound exactly like one of my drinking buddies.  I hope you didn't lose your shirt on that Manchester City vs Everton draw like I did.  I might be the worst, because Manchester United also crushed me at Stoke and at home vs Southampton...   It's those trap near pick'ems that you know will be draws, but you say "ehhhh I'll take it anyway" and bury you.

[lastguyoffthebench]

Saw in your BPL predictions...

Arsenal is my squad... they must have the worst trainers because guys are always getting banged up.   I'm thinking they still play a 4-1-4-1 vs City and try to win a fast paced race here.   Walcott and Ozil coming back makes it that much harder to try and piece a lineup together.   Can't see Clichy and Zabaleta streaking that much down the flanks because Arsenal will counter the ****e out em.  With no Yaya it will certainly make for an entertaining game.   I'd say Vegas has City set at -120 and the draw at +250, but I'll have to check

[lastguyoffthebench]

Speaking of Wenger... had a pretty futures play on France to win the WC.  Thought they had all the pieces of the puzzle to get it done for a semi longshot.   That game vs Germany was a snoozefest.     

Germany cost me a ton with the draws vs Ghana and Algeria.   Hate them.  Especially for drawing vs Algeria.  At the same time, Algeria played 'em perfectly and should have won that game.

[1970s NESCAC Player]

I think I would rather be a soccer coach making $50k than work on Wall Street or be a corporate lawyer. I have relatives who did both and they hit $750k/year in their early 30s. Both hate job and the Wall Street one ended up with divorce as he was rarely home. Corporate law is mind numbing boredom. I think once you have your basics covered (food, rent, etc), money is of lesser importance.

I guess the best of both worlds is to go make the serious bucks on Wall Street, then switch gears and coach soccer in the NESCAC. I believe the NESCAC has such a coach. Any guesses?

Corazon:  Ken Murphy went this route.  His buddy, Mike Noonan, talked him back into assistant coaching at Brown and Bruno United, and now he's the head man at Conn.

[Corazon]

Very good, 1970s NESCAC Player.

[Mr.Right]

haha....soccer and gambling can be a conundrum. For instance Arsenal v ManCity will look like this


Manchester City   -130
Arsenal                    +350
Draw                       +275

Usually I would cover my bet with a bet for Arsenal and the draw.So $200 for $700 and $200 for $550. You root for Arsenal but still can live with a late draw.With a 66% chance of winning to me it is better than 50%. Of course you also run the risk of doubling your losses for no reason.

This line however seems suspect a bit to me and I would have to go Man City for $300 for $231. Why are Arsenal such dogs and even the draw such a dog. SUSPECT.

This type of betting is best in WC and Europa which I swear is HEAVILY FIXED. EPL and Champions League not so much except for meaningless group stage games with eliminated teams.

[lastguyoffthebench]

As far as Man City -130.  I think that's a gift.   They always play much better at the Etihad.   Arsenal have players returning, but Aguero should terrorize that banged up backline.  Then again a front 6 of Sanchez Giroud Walcott (if ready) or Welbeck.   Cazorla Flamini Ozil or the Ox could give City fits.     

Spread
Arsenal +.5  +110
Man City -.5  -130


The lock of the weekend should be Man Utd -165 over QPR.  Shouldn't have a problem attacking vs a weak QPR team and this will be the game that they can finally be more dynamic in the final third.   RVP doubtful, but you still get Falcao off the bench to replace him.

Had Chelsea at 10/1 for Champions League last year and again for this year, although I think it's Bayern's to lose.  With the final being in Germany, I still give them an
edge over Real Madrid.

In the instance of Leicester vs Stoke... where both teams are plus money, I'd usually go with the home team on the spread line.   No need to hedge the bet, just lay the small juice instead and if it draws you don't lose anything. 

Money Line
Stoke City +185
Leicester   +160
Draw        +225

Spread
Stoke City  pk -105
Leicester    pk  -115

[Corazon]

Kevin Hudson, who I presume was the SMU assistant who almost got the Williams job, has been named head coach at ... SMU. The AD fired head coach Tim McClements, who has been one of the most underachieving coaches in all of D1 in my opinion.

[Mr.Right]

nah it was the other assistant that interviewed at Williams