Mr.Rights Thoughts

[Mr.Right]

Russo rakes in one final recruit who is a game changer.

Harrison Fyke-USDA Empire Revolution

Canadian kid who is very skilled and fast. Frosh that will contribute next year in midfield

[Ommadawn]

Russo rakes in one final recruit who is a game changer.

Harrison Fyke-USDA Empire Revolution

Canadian kid who is very skilled and fast. Frosh that will contribute next year in midfield

Where is he playing this year?  Although he was on the Empire Revolution U16 squad last year, he does not seem to be listed on this year's U18 roster.

[Mr.Right]

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=139313

[Corazon]

Mr. Right,

With the ED1 notification coming up soon for the NESCACs, do you know what % of Williams' recruits actually get admitted?  I'm talking about the players which Russo has earmarked as his recruits with the admissions office and who have passed the early admission read in July. I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on other NESCACs as well. Thanks.

[Ommadawn]

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=139313

Thank you for the scoop.  He must have wanted to play high school in his senior year.

[Mr.Right]

Well as other's have commented on different sports on these boards I will comment on Mens Soccer from what I have understood over the years

3 Tips with the opportunity to bank one for the next year or use 2 for 1 on a special special player.

2 Ice

2 Protect

1 Academic Admit


I should add that admissions will let you barter for a possible 4th tip by trading off your Ice and Protect

[Corazon]

Thanks. Tips and academic admits, I understand. Not sure I understand the nuances of the ice and protects.

I've heard of the banding system - A, B, C. The "A"s are basically the same as the regular student body (academic admits). The Cs are the 1800+ SAT guys who would not have a chance if not for soccer. The Bs are the fuzzy ones, and vary by school.

[Corazon]

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=139313

Thank you for the scoop.  He must have wanted to play high school in his senior year.

Yeah, I was also guessing that since he knew he was going to Williams, he probably decided to play high school.

[Mr.Right]

Yes.

Tips are guys that have absolutely no chance of getting into the school without the coaches support. A coach must be careful and see these kids as much as possible because these players can determine how your program does for the next 3 to 4 years. You better get an injury history, and well you get it just be very thorough. Admissions sometimes follows your tips both academically and athletically so you do not want to continually strike out here.

2 for 1 tips are like I said for the very very best players. Admissions looks at these kids as being unable to handle the schools workload so if they see anything in the kids academic body of work that sends off alarms( a couple of C's) they will tell the coach to pass. The coach can have some flexibility depending upon the coach's liason in admissions but usually these guys are being looked at by the director of admissions.

Ice are guys that also would not get into the school without the coaches support but are less risky academically than tips. This can be a win win for the coach because if they have a really good player and he is an ICE than he saves a tip. This is why you can barter your ICE and PROTECT's for an additional TIP in some years.

You can only bank one tip and cannot bank the tip in 2 consecutive years.

Protect is the next step from ICE and is borderline getting in on his own but most likely will not.

Academic Admit is basically a kid that is qualified but at schools like Amherst and Williams they are being thrown into a pool with all really qualified applicants. If the coach supports this one kid then the kid will get in over regular applicants

[Corazon]

Excellent summary

[Masoccer]

Well as other's have commented on different sports on these boards I will comment on Mens Soccer from what I have understood over the years

3 Tips with the opportunity to bank one for the next year or use 2 for 1 on a special special player.

2 Ice

2 Protect

1 Academic Admit


I should add that admissions will let you barter for a possible 4th tip by trading off your Ice and Protect

What about "slots?"

[Mr.Right]

Nescac coaches are getting very frustrated with the lack of Pool C bids they are getting. It came out today that Tufts was the LAST team to get a Pool C. Basically the national champion almost did not make it.

[1970s NESCAC Player]

Nescac coaches are getting very frustrated with the lack of Pool C bids they are getting. It came out today that Tufts was the LAST team to get a Pool C. Basically the national champion almost did not make it.

That is believable, since they were drawn into the same quadrant as the No. 1 seed.  Perhaps the tournament committee members were following threads that proclaimed the demise of NESCAC!  But after another successful run through D3, will NESCAC will get an extra slot next year?  The league should be as good/competitive as ever next year from top to bottom.

[Mr.Right]

A great example of the 2 for 1 tip. Williams and Russo desperately wanted Sam DeMello as he was Russo's prototype player but admissions told him that he could not get in.  This was disappointing for coach and player. DeMello was from Western MA and played for Western United who at the time was coached by current Amherst assistant Derek Shea. This was a pretty good team and fun to watch. DeMello was the star in central midfield but this team worked their ass off and had great technical ability for Western Mass standards. DeMello after getting the bad news about Williams but was heading to Trinity when Russo told Durocher about him because he thought SLU was a better program for DeMello's style and most likely he did not want to face him for the next four years at Trinity. That would have been a dominant Trinity side with DeMello, Myernick, Buckley, etc. It worked out well for DeMello and I felt so bad for him when he got injured his senior year by a reckless Union player's tackle.

[Mr.Right]

I think the committee might need to add another secondary criteria of looking at historical success of conferences in the NCAA tournament maybe for the past 3-5 years if two teams are vying for one spot or 3 teams for 2 etc. Also, I wish that the committee would go back to the once ranked always ranked premise. This gives teams credit for beating teams when they were playing well enough to be ranked and conversely discrediting them when they lose.