Mr.Rights Thoughts

[D3soccerwatcher]

Big news....interesting timing

http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2014/11/24/MSOC_1124140757.aspx     

This is an excellent hire for this program. Former player, D3 head coaching experience and a similar type school, D1 assistant, young and experience in recruiting this type of player. I am befuddled by the timing but I assume the head coach gave his ok and I would be willing to bet he is out there now or at the very least will be in KC. I remember talking to the Gordon AD a while back and praising this kid for turning this once dormant program into something worth talking about before the next guy built it even more.

Mr.Right,

The facts seem to contradict your comments...

GORDON COLLEGE SOCCER:
5 Years Prior to DeClute:  59-29-10 (60%)
5 Years of DeClute:  46-36-13 (48%)
3 Years since DeClute:  39-20-3 (63%)

However, it is intriguing that he was recently a volunteer assistant under Coach D. Brandt at Navy (that has to be an excellent training ground for young coaches).  And I would think that Coach Brandt only brings in quality people for his staff.

Facts never contradict my comments...You really need to dig deeper and see the SOS for Gordon before DeClute. WP% will not tell the whole story. Also, I wonder if the team manager on Navy's bench would be a great Head coach. Just being next to Brandt on the sidelines would rub off on him. Maybe even the scorekeeper and timekeeper

Mr.Right,

Back to your old tricks again.  I presented real hard data on Gordon's records under the different coaching staffs.  And the data support my position.  You on the other hand purport that there are data (out there somewhere) that support your position that there were five years of a weak SOS, then suddenly 5 years of a strong SOS, and then suddenly another 3 years of a weak SOS.  Show me the data.

[lastguyoffthebench]

Massey SOS data:

2014 -  142
2013 -  203
2012 -  243
--------------------
2011 -  206
2010 -  252
2009 -  230
2008 -  286
2007 -  249
---------------------
2006 -  292
2005 -  269

[D3soccerwatcher]

Massey SOS data:

2014 -  142
2013 -  203
2012 -  243
--------------------
2011 -  206
2010 -  252
2009 -  230
2008 -  286
2007 -  249
---------------------
2006 -  292
2005 -  269

The body of data does not support Mr.Right's position.

[Harley47]

What do you think is Midd's weakest position going into next season?

[Brother Flounder]

What do you think is Midd's weakest position going into next season?

If I was to say one area it would probably be midfield...

[lastguyoffthebench]

Massey SOS data:

2014 -  142
2013 -  203
2012 -  243
--------------------
2011 -  206
2010 -  252
2009 -  230
2008 -  286
2007 -  249
---------------------
2006 -  292
2005 -  269

The body of data does not support Mr.Right's position.

I concur, but he may be privy to the SOS database that truly matters, The regional rankings as calculated by the NCAA.  I was just posting numbers that were already out there.

[Mr.Right]

More amazing than all these stats and records is that we have discussed Gordon Men's soccer continually all fall on this board.

[Mr.Right]

I have not heard much for Midd recruits but I have said this before and I will repeat it. Based on what is coming back for 2015 Midd has the opportunity to be very good and also the possibility of being very average. They are solid up front and in goal. They have size and speed and athleticism but they are missing that skilled CM that can connect with his strikers. They need to salvage some of the size and get more skilled in midfield to take the pressure off of Conrad and Glaser. I have also said this all year but Glaser must work on his left foot. Defenders are constantly shutting him down if they stay on his right. He will beat them with his speed but if he had a decent left foot he could score more goals against Nescac competition. Midd will go 5-0-0 against there out of conference foes in 2015 because they will remember the loss at Castleton St this year. If they can go 6-3-1 or 6-2-2 or even 5-3-2 against Nescac plus a 1st round win that should be enough. They might play the weakest out of conference schedule in Nescac an award that usually goes to Amherst but lately Trinity CT is vying for it

[4231CenterBack]

More amazing than all these stats and records is that we have discussed Gordon Men's soccer continually all fall on this board.

Don't be too amazed if the trend continues. Potteiger has signed some pretty impressive recruits, a kid who was first team all-state in NY and a local product who turned down an offer from BU....among others.

He's the real deal and this is just his second recruiting class.  Just keep an open mind......we'll have more evidence after next year's clash with a local Nescac power.

[Mr.Right]

I assume they will be playing Bowdoin or Tufts as their Nescac team. They will lose either.

[D3soccerwatcher]

More amazing than all these stats and records is that we have discussed Gordon Men's soccer continually all fall on this board.

Mr.Right,

Since all you can do is ignore the data and try to change the subject...I'll take this as an admission that your comments about Coach Declute turning around Gordon soccer were WRONG.

[Mr.Right]

I spoke to the AD at Gordon a while back and he said that DeClute turned Gordon into a relevant program. Sometimes numbers do not give you 100% of the story and everything is not always so black and white. To be honest with you I do not care either way anymore. There are way more interesting items to be discussing than a historic dormant program that may or may not be turning into something of relevance

[Brother Flounder]

I have not heard much for Midd recruits but I have said this before and I will repeat it. Based on what is coming back for 2015 Midd has the opportunity to be very good and also the possibility of being very average. They are solid up front and in goal. They have size and speed and athleticism but they are missing that skilled CM that can connect with his strikers. They need to salvage some of the size and get more skilled in midfield to take the pressure off of Conrad and Glaser. I have also said this all year but Glaser must work on his left foot. Defenders are constantly shutting him down if they stay on his right. He will beat them with his speed but if he had a decent left foot he could score more goals against Nescac competition. Midd will go 5-0-0 against there out of conference foes in 2015 because they will remember the loss at Castleton St this year. If they can go 6-3-1 or 6-2-2 or even 5-3-2 against Nescac plus a 1st round win that should be enough. They might play the weakest out of conference schedule in Nescac an award that usually goes to Amherst but lately Trinity CT is vying for it

Thanks.... Yes that terrible turf field at Middlebury would benefit from skilled midfielders.....

[Mr.Right]

Indeed. I remember when Midd actually had a grass field there about 10 years ago. The had to go to turf because the field is at the bottom of that hill and would always collect all the rain after a storm. It really did not drain well

[Brother Flounder]

Indeed. I remember when Midd actually had a grass field there about 10 years ago. The had to go to turf because the field is at the bottom of that hill and would always collect all the rain after a storm. It really did not drain well

How is the women's field there?  Could they improve that field?