2015 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE

PaulNewman · November 04, 2015, 04:09:52 PM

Hate to say I called a TMC loss....although I thought it would be in final. Now TMC is sweating. RPI is gonna get in and TMC not??? Wow!

Mid-Atlantic Fan · November 04, 2015, 04:56:43 PM

TMC probably still gets in but losing in the semis has them on the bubble now instead of a lock...

blooter442 · November 04, 2015, 05:02:28 PM

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on November 04, 2015, 04:56:43 PM
TMC probably still gets in but losing in the semis has them on the bubble now instead of a lock...

Agree with this. Don't think they're going to get John Carroll'd (sorry, too funny, laughed out loud at it), but that certainly takes away someone else's Pool C I'm afraid.

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 06:21:38 PM

CSS's Kyle Farrer now with 24g on the year in the 10-0 rout today...

Ryan Harmanis · November 04, 2015, 06:35:03 PM

I posted this in more detail in the Great Lakes thread, but I'll summarize briefly. I think TMC is in trouble. Given that Kenyon won today and now has five ranked wins, and that TMC was already behind DePauw and Carnegie Mellon in the regional rankings, that pushes TMC to fourth in the GL - and third in the Pool C pecking order, behind CMU and one NCAC team.

If OWU wins the AQ, that would push TMC to fourth in the pecking order. And if OWU beats DePauw tonight, OWU is almost definitely jumping DePauw and TMC. So TMC would need the GL to get four at-large bids to get in. Possible, but not a fun place to be.

Even if DePauw wins tonight, that still puts TMC in a tough spot being third (or even fourth if they drop below OWU) in the at-large order for the GL.

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 07:20:45 PM

Yes, TMC is done in my opinion. When you play in a weak conference, there is little or no room for error...

Rutgers-Camden up 1-0 on Stockton 15 in
Rowan up 1-0 on MSU

PaulNewman · November 04, 2015, 08:41:25 PM

So since no one has chimed in to suggest it has ever happened, can we at least assume that in terms of recent memory no team has made the NCAA tourney who didn't make their conference tourney? Two big examples this year are standing out as possibilities given the latest....the often mentioned RPI and the more under the radar North Park (also ranked #4 in their region I believe). We may have to call Dick Vitale in when the selections are announced on Selection Monday.

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 08:44:31 PM

I do not see how OWU is a lock even if they win tonight. That is only 2 wins v ranked. I have never seen so many teams with 5+ regionally ranked wins. I feel like this has been inflated a bit for some reason but oh well. It really burns me that the CCC get the bottom 3 rankings in New England to give Calvin a 1-0-1 RvR. They still need the AQ but give me a break. I think go back to the once ranked always ranked but ELIMINATE the bottom 2-3 teams in some of the Eastern regions as they are inflating RvR to me to mean not as much as it used to. Also, the away multiplier is fine but bump the home win up to 1.00. You all are right , why are we penalizing home wins that much. I mean UMASS Boston would't have even sniffed the rankings without all those road games.

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 08:47:53 PM

How did this DePauw team win 11 games? Am I missing something or is the video in slow motion

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 08:56:43 PM

Rutgers-Camden 2, Stockton 0. Red card for Stockton in 82nd min... Mike Ryan misses PK and subsequent rebound...

MSU will host Camden Saturday... Camden same record going into final as last season but they are ranked this time.

Another red for Stockton in 83rd min

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 09:00:40 PM

Lol gotta love the emotion and passion of the NJAC...Any running count on reds for the conference this year? 6 goal scorelines..Love it...Waiting for fisticuffs in the Final which I hope is streamed this year

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 09:02:51 PM

So Stockton just lost 2 players for the NCAA's?

Ryan Harmanis · November 04, 2015, 09:05:45 PM

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 04, 2015, 08:44:31 PM
I do not see how OWU is a lock even if they win tonight. That is only 2 wins v ranked. I have never seen so many teams with 5+ regionally ranked wins. I feel like this has been inflated a bit for some reason but oh well.

OWU is a lock, IMO, because they now have three ranked wins for next week - Oberlin jumped into the rankings, meaning OWU has wins over DePauw x2 plus Oberlin. And with a game at Kenyon plus tonight's game OWU's SoS is going to be around 0.600. Even with a loss to Kenyon, OWU should be a lock at 15-4-2, 3-3-1 RvR, and SoS 0.590-0.600.

PaulNewman · November 04, 2015, 09:06:32 PM

I think where I initially got so thrown by the SoS hoopla is that it seems like 2-3 years ago there was MUCH more focus on how many a blemishes a team had, and more talk about a line in the sand number of blemishes. DePauw has 7 now. Other teams have 6, 7, 8 blemishes but apparently that doesn't matter as much as I thought.

Ryan Harmanis · November 04, 2015, 09:09:23 PM

I think blemishes matter, it's just that this year there are so many teams with a high number of blemishes. Also, in recent seasons teams such as Rochester (the board's favorite example) have gotten in despite a ton of blemishes because they hit the rest of the criteria (SoS, ranked wins) very well. So either things have shifted with the committee or our collective understanding of what matters has improved.