2015 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE

[lastguyoffthebench]

Stevens and TCNJ tied 1 1 at the half

[PaulNewman]

IDK, looks like Oneonta has most of their stars from last year back, and I'm they have at least a few frosh.  Great win for Williams and a bit of a message to the rest of the NESCAC and any of the doubters (like myself) from a national perspective.

Wheaton (MA) was in huge trouble with 2 losses already and down 3-1 to WNEC but came back to win 4-3 in OT. 

Last I checked Scranton was handling Muhlenberg. 

Ohio Northern outshoots Wittenberg 13-1 in 1st half and were down 1-0.

At least on paper OWU had a little more trouble with Otterbein than I would have expected.

[Mr.Right]

I remember Trenton St / TCNJ in the mid 90's as an absolute bear..Great Jersey toughness, some dirty play and athleticism.

[Mr.Right]

BTW...Excellent new resource on this site with the NCAA Tournament History and Brackets for each year...I have been trying to find that stuff for a long time

[ECSUalum]

First Regular season D3Soccer Poll:
September 9, 2015
D3soccer.com Men's Top 25, Week 1

Through games of Monday, September 7, 2015

# School (1st Pl. Votes) Record Pts. Prev.
1 Chris. Newport (2) 3-0-0 840 —
2 Oneonta State (1) 3-0-0 835 —
3 Carnegie Mellon (3) 3-0-0 833 —
4 Trinity (Texas) (2) 3-0-0 825 —
5 Ohio Wesleyan 3-0-0 731 —
6 Tufts (3) D.N.P. 688 —
7 St. Lawrence 3-0-0 673 —
8 Salisbury 3-0-0 663 —
9 Kenyon 3-0-0 652 —
10 Loras 2-0-0 549 —
11 Montclair State 4-0-0 548 —
12 Franklin & Marshall 3-0-0 462 —
13 Eastern Connecticut 2-0-0 457 —
14 Messiah 1-1-0 438 —
15 Elizabethtown 3-0-0 382 —
16 Chicago 3-0-0 369 —
17 Whitworth 2-0-0 356 —
18 Brandeis 2-1-0 312 —
19 UW-Whitewater 4-0-0 287 —
20 Wheaton (Ill.) 1-1-0 274 —
21 Amherst D.N.P. 207 —
22 Stevens 2-0-0 195 —
23 Geneseo State 3-0-0 175 —
24 Denison 3-0-0 132 —
25 Merchant Marine 2-1-0 131 —

Receiving Votes: Washington U. 130, Rutgers-Camden 124, Thomas More 113, Gustavus Adolphus 102, Occidental 87, WPI 84, Drew 80, Redlands 76, TCNJ 73, Haverford 62, North Park 58, Stockton 58, Calvin 51, Virginia Wesleyan 47, Frostburg State 44, RPI 33, Case Western Reserve 29, Wheaton (Mass.) 25, Bowdoin 25, Wentworth 22, Muhlenberg 22, Milwaukee Engineering 22, Dickinson 18, Birmingham-Southern 18, Ohio Northern 18, Cortland State 15, Trinity (Conn.) 11, Texas-Dallas 7, Methodist 7, St. Scholastica 4, St. Thomas 4

[Flying Weasel]

BTW...Excellent new resource on this site with the NCAA Tournament History and Brackets for each year...I have been trying to find that stuff for a long time

You mustn't have been looking at the right place. ;-)  They have been available on the NCAA's websites for at least a decade and a half.  Granted, every couple years they'd change where they had them such that it seemed like a scavenger hunt in which when you couldn't find them you never knew if it was because you didn't look at the right places or because they were even further behind in getting the new year's records books updated and posted.  The NCAA has lot of great resources.  Too bad they don't make it a little easier to find (and why this stuff is usually only available thru the ncaa.org site instead of the ncaa.com site, I'll never know), although it's been much better on the latest incarnation of their sites.

[Ryan Harmanis]

At least on paper OWU had a little more trouble with Otterbein than I would have expected.

Only caught the second half, but not much in this game.  OWU played Saturday-Sunday and looked tired, Otterbein posed little threat (0 SOG).  Otterbein gives OWU a game about every other year - tough today, smoked last year's Final Four team, tied 2009 #1 team, etc.  Probably a huge game for the program - the schools are only 16 miles apart, plus lingering motivation for Otterbein's staff from better teams in the past.

As for the rankings, I'm not privy to how everything gets compiled, but the lack of #1 votes (less than 15) makes me think the poll might take a week to really reflect voters' opinions.  More games also means more data, so I'd expect some pretty drastic movement in the next week or two.

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

First Regular season D3Soccer Poll:
September 9, 2015
D3soccer.com Men's Top 25, Week 1

Through games of Monday, September 7, 2015

# School (1st Pl. Votes) Record Pts. Prev.
1 Chris. Newport (2) 3-0-0 840 —
2 Oneonta State (1) 3-0-0 835 —
3 Carnegie Mellon (3) 3-0-0 833 —
4 Trinity (Texas) (2) 3-0-0 825 —
5 Ohio Wesleyan 3-0-0 731 —
6 Tufts (3) D.N.P. 688 —
7 St. Lawrence 3-0-0 673 —
8 Salisbury 3-0-0 663 —
9 Kenyon 3-0-0 652 —
10 Loras 2-0-0 549 —
11 Montclair State 4-0-0 548 —
12 Franklin & Marshall 3-0-0 462 —
13 Eastern Connecticut 2-0-0 457 —
14 Messiah 1-1-0 438 —
15 Elizabethtown 3-0-0 382 —
16 Chicago 3-0-0 369 —
17 Whitworth 2-0-0 356 —
18 Brandeis 2-1-0 312 —
19 UW-Whitewater 4-0-0 287 —
20 Wheaton (Ill.) 1-1-0 274 —
21 Amherst D.N.P. 207 —
22 Stevens 2-0-0 195 —
23 Geneseo State 3-0-0 175 —
24 Denison 3-0-0 132 —
25 Merchant Marine 2-1-0 131 —

Receiving Votes: Washington U. 130, Rutgers-Camden 124, Thomas More 113, Gustavus Adolphus 102, Occidental 87, WPI 84, Drew 80, Redlands 76, TCNJ 73, Haverford 62, North Park 58, Stockton 58, Calvin 51, Virginia Wesleyan 47, Frostburg State 44, RPI 33, Case Western Reserve 29, Wheaton (Mass.) 25, Bowdoin 25, Wentworth 22, Muhlenberg 22, Milwaukee Engineering 22, Dickinson 18, Birmingham-Southern 18, Ohio Northern 18, Cortland State 15, Trinity (Conn.) 11, Texas-Dallas 7, Methodist 7, St. Scholastica 4, St. Thomas 4

Anybody know how they conduct this poll? Is it coaches or people that run the site or a mix of both? Thanks!

[Domino1195]

At least on paper OWU had a little more trouble with Otterbein than I would have expected.

Only caught the second half, but not much in this game.  OWU played Saturday-Sunday and looked tired, Otterbein posed little threat (0 SOG).  Otterbein gives OWU a game about every other year - tough today, smoked last year's Final Four team, tied 2009 #1 team, etc.  Probably a huge game for the program - the schools are only 16 miles apart, plus lingering motivation for Otterbein's staff from better teams in the past.

I've seen Otterbein twice now - and I can't figure a thing out looking at comparative scores right now. Watched them at Wittenburg - who gave ONU a decent game yesterday. Saw Dension's squad in the spring - didn't look very good - now they are 24th?  To your point - we need a few more games to sort things out.

[Mr.Right]

Does anyone know the status of the proposal by the NCAA I think last year to save $$$$. Some of the items on the table to be discussed were cutting NCAA Pool C bids to 3 instead of 19 like it was about 15 years ago, cutting max games allowed to play , cutting mid-week games, etc etc....

[ECSUalum]

MidAtlanticFan,
Anybody know how they conduct this poll? Is it coaches or people that run the site or a mix of both? Thanks!
The D3soccer.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of coaches, Sports Information Directors and D3soccer.com staff, and is published weekly

[lastguyoffthebench]

Does anyone know the status of the proposal by the NCAA I think last year to save $$$$. Some of the items on the table to be discussed were cutting NCAA Pool C bids to 3 instead of 19 like it was about 15 years ago, cutting max games allowed to play , cutting mid-week games, etc etc....

E-town finished 15-3 in 2000... Lost to Drew 3-1 and Messiah twice (both by 1 goal) and failed to make the tournament only watch Messiah win it ALL.   Mind boggling!   Back then, you had to pray the big hitters won their respective conferences. 


First Round - Bye -
Regional Semifinals Grantham, PA Carnegie Mellon University Messiah 4-0
Regional Finals Grantham, PA Drew College Messiah 3-0
Quarterfinals Hamilton, NY Hamilton College Messiah 3-0
Semifinals Rowan, NJ Linfield College Messiah 3-2  (the Hayden Woodworth comeback).
Finals Rowan, NJ Rowan University Messiah 2-0

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

MidAtlanticFan,
Anybody know how they conduct this poll? Is it coaches or people that run the site or a mix of both? Thanks!
The D3soccer.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of coaches, Sports Information Directors and D3soccer.com staff, and is published weekly

ECSU:

Thanks for your input! Was always curious. Explains why some teams are always in the top 25 no matter what their record may be! Happens in any pole though. I have a feeling there will be a lot of changes each week based off the start of the season. Everyone is beating up on everyone at the moment! Should be a fun year.

[Mr.Right]

Ummm this is a normal occurrence every year

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

Ummm this is a normal occurrence every year

Messiah losing in the first week is a normal occurrence? #2 and #3 losing on the same day happens every year? I guess I don't watch enough soccer then...