2015 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE

[PaulNewman]

NCAA Great Lakes Regional Rankings - October 29, 2014 (Second Week)

Rank	Team	Record	SOS	RvR
1.	Loras	13-2-1	.593	5-0-1
2.	Wartburg	10-3-4	.548	3-1-0
3.	UW-Whitewater	10-3-3	.568	3-1-0
4.	St. Olaf	11-3-2	.561	0-3-1
5.	Gustavus Adolphus	11-4-1	.536	1-1-1
6.	UW-Oshkosh	12-5-1	.558	0-2-1
7.	St. John's	9-6-0	.564	1-4-0
	Luther	13-2-0	.493	1-2-0

Compare Luther to teams 4 thru 7.  St. Olaf and UW-Oshkosh who have no wins vs. ranked teams.  GAC and St. John's only have 1 win vs. ranked.  SOS is where Luther fell glaringly short, not so much RvR.  But what still doesn't make sense is that their SOS was .519 the week prior, still very low and much lower than everyone else in the rankings and yet they were ranked #2.  If SOS was so important to the commitee, why #2 the first week?

If I recall correctly there was a huge change for Montclair too that few us of understood, like from #2 or #3 to unranked.

[lastguyoffthebench]

TOP 25

MASSEY  (SOS)   /  BENNETT (SOS)

1) Amherst (11)..............................1.  Amherst (87)   
2) Frank & Marsh (56).....................2.  Kenyon (165)
3) Calvin (108).................................3. SLU (31)
4) Montclair St (44).........................4. F&M (111)
5) Haverford (7)............................5. Stevens (98)   
6) Brandeis (17)..............................6. Loras (17)   
7) SUNY Oneonta (5)......................7. Kean (197)   
8) Middlebury (14)...........................8. Haverford (12)   
9) Plattsburgh St (35)......................9. Calvin (90)   
10)Lycoming (70)..........................10. Messiah (40)   
11)Kenyon (128).............................11. Montclair St (23)   
12)Elizabethtown (83)....................12. Oneonta St (37)   
13)Tufts (2)................................13. North Park (75)   
14)MA Boston (43)........................14. Thomas More (138)   
15)Eastern Univ (100).....................15. Lycoming (168)   
16)Thomas More (117)....................16. Rowan (35)
17)Whitworth (195)........................17. Whitworth (294)   
18)Kean (153)................................18. Ohio Wesleyan (130)
19)Stevens Tech (64)....................19. UW-Oshkosh (111)    
20)Brockport St (55).....................20. UW-Whitewater (181)   
21)R Stockton (49).......................21. Plattsburgh St (173)   
22)Hobart-Smith (21)...................22. R Stockton (43)   
23)CT College (8)........................23. Elizabethtown (142)   
24)E Connecticut (69)...................24. Tufts (5)   
25)St Lawrence (18).....................25. Case Western (77)
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RV)Wesleyan CT (3)....................26. Trinity (253)   
RV)Williams (1)...........................27.  Dickinson (38)   
RV)Rowan (13)............................28.  Cortland St. (91)   
RV)Loras (28)............................. 29.  Rutgers-Newark (53)
RV)MIT (184)...............................30.  Rutgers-Camden (25)   
RV)Case Western (81)...................31. RPI (66)   

RV) 26-31

[Mr.Right]

REPOST FROM NESCAC THREAD


Amherst unless a complete collapse will host and receive the 1st Round bye in the NCAA tournament. The 2nd round game usually is a tough one but Amherst should handle them. The Sweet 16 and Elite 8 games will also be hosted at Amherst. This is where Serpone has notoriously COME UP short. 2012 and 2013 losing to Williams at Home. Losing in 2014 to Brandeis at Oneonta. 2011 getting smacked by Stevens at home in the Sweet 16. In 2010 losing to Bowdoin at Bowdoin in the Sweet 16 in PK's. 2009 getting whacked at York PA in RD32 which Williams went on to beat them in PK's to reach Final 4.

POINT:

Amherst dominates regular Season but has 1 Final 4 in 2008 to show for it. Serpone's weakest team was 2008 and they got smacked by Stevens in Final 4----4-1.

Williams since 2009 has been to 3 FINAL 4's beating Amherst twice TO GET THERE...


MAIN POINT:

It would be an understatement to say Serpone has UNDERPERFORMED in the NCAA's after dominating regular season in most year...


Will this be the year he gets through and finished the deal...?

[Saint of Old]

Amherst is a great team, but in my opinion, like several others atop D3 (Loras/Stevens/Oneonta/Kenyon)

Must win a title to truly be considered a Powerhouse.

[Mr.Right]

Amherst is a great team, but in my opinion, like several others atop D3 (Loras/Stevens/Oneonta/Kenyon)

Must win a title to truly be considered a Powerhouse.

Could not agree more...That is why I highlighted the Serpone flame outs in the NCAA's

[lastguyoffthebench]

Looking at Whitworth OWP... it's a shockingly low .414 (.440 with remaining games).

AQ or Bust for this Nationally Ranked team...

[Mr.Right]

Looking at Whitworth OWP... it's a shockingly low .414 (.440 with remaining games).

AQ or Bust for this Nationally Ranked team...

Great...That means 1 more Texas team that does not deserve to be in...Gotta keep $$$$ down

[Mr.Right]

I have been harping on CALVIN all year.....I JUST DO NOT SEE 1 DAMN win that jumps out at me....What is their SOS and OWP?   I am guessing very weak

[lastguyoffthebench]

Calvin is the benefactor of scheduling 11 road games this season.   Endicott and Gordon's strong record helps their OWP, which is around .540 at the moment, and will drop to .520 range by the end of regular season with Olivet, Trine, Adrian (away), K-zoo (away).

Endicott   11   1   2   a   1.071
Gordon   10   3   0   a   0.962
Aurora   6   6   2   a   0.625
NC Ill   3   10   0   a   0.375
Alma   9   4   1   a   0.848
Olivet   3   12   1   a   0.273
Albion   5   9   1   a   0.458
Trine   5   9   1   a   0.458
Hope   5   8   1   a   0.491
Adrian   4   9   2   a   0.417
Kzoo   9   4   1   a   0.848
               
Trine   5   9   1      0.312
Hope   5   8   1      0.334
Adrian   4   9   2      0.283
Kzoo   9   4   1      0.577
Alma   9   4   1      0.538
Olivet   3   12   1      0.186
Albion   5   9   1      0.312

[PaulNewman]

Loras losing right after I pumped then up!

[TennesseeJed]

Seems surprising to me that they would play each other this late in the season as an out-of-conf game unless it was a rescheduled game?  Big W for St. Thomas.  Loras lucky it doesn't go against their in-conf record!

[PaulNewman]

Loras losing right after I pumped then up!

I hate it when teams screw up my poll  , and right when I was going to insist that Loras IS a national powerhouse considering their overall resume for the past 8-10 years.

[PaulNewman]

Looking at Whitworth OWP... it's a shockingly low .414 (.440 with remaining games).

AQ or Bust for this Nationally Ranked team...

No chance that Whitworth doesn't make the tournament.  Sort of a moot point, as the PAC NW doesn't have a tourney and Whitworth pretty much already has won the AQ.

[PaulNewman]

I have been harping on CALVIN all year.....I JUST DO NOT SEE 1 DAMN win that jumps out at me....What is their SOS and OWP?   I am guessing very weak

So, if you look at the rankings, where would you put Calvin?  A traditional power that likely is going to be 17-0-1 or 18-0-1.  KZoo will gte a shot at beating them.

[PaulNewman]

Amherst is a great team, but in my opinion, like several others atop D3 (Loras/Stevens/Oneonta/Kenyon)

Must win a title to truly be considered a Powerhouse.

Obviously you can't belong to the national title club, but I don't agree with this entirely.  Who are the D3 powerhouses if Loras and Amherst don't count?  Only Messiah, OWU and Wheaton (Ill)?  Winning a title 20+ years ago doesn't make one a powerhouse NOW.  Where I agree is with the upstart, top programs (doing well over the past 3-4 years) that need to get to Final Fours in order to reach "powerhouse" status like F&M, Kenyon, Brandeis, etc.