2015 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE

[Sherlock Holmes]

Projected byes: Calvin Kenyon and MSU or Brandeis.

There are only 3 Bye's I believe.

That's why he only picked three teams 

[Mr.Right]

You are correct I did not see the "or"

[PaulNewman]

Rose-Hulman takes HCAC AQ in PKs.

And Methodist upsets Greensboro (mild upset).

[Mr.Right]

When was the last time Messiah missed out on the NCAA's?

When was the last time Messiah had 5+ losses?

When was the last time Messiah lost to the same team in the same year?



I am not trying to be negative but am just curious about these questions because if they had better GK'ing against CMU and Rowan and won those games, with their SOS they would have gotten a Pool C.

[blooter442]

When was the last time Messiah missed out on the NCAA's?

When was the last time Messiah had 5+ losses?

When was the last time Messiah lost to the same team in the same year?



I am not trying to be negative but am just curious about these questions because if they had better GK'ing against CMU and Rowan and won those games, with their SOS they would have gotten a Pool C.

To add to the thread of anomalies, this is the first time that Dr. Jay Martin has lost twice in one season to the same team (Kenyon.) That said, sounds like OWU was hard done by, and I really hope there is video of that game.

[Mr.Right]

That was the 1st  time in Jay Martin's career that he lost to the same team twice in one year?   If that is true that is very impressive.

[PaulNewman]

When was the last time Messiah missed out on the NCAA's?

When was the last time Messiah had 5+ losses?

When was the last time Messiah lost to the same team in the same year?



I am not trying to be negative but am just curious about these questions because if they had better GK'ing against CMU and Rowan and won those games, with their SOS they would have gotten a Pool C.

To add to the thread of anomalies, this is the first time that Dr. Jay Martin has lost twice in one season to the same team (Kenyon.) That said, sounds like OWU was hard done by, and I really hope there is video of that game.

Bloots, I'll have to disagree a little there.  Perhaps if only looking at that one play (and I'm as curious to see it as anyone), but if Kenyon had lost that game being up 2-0 with 60 secs left and given the totality of the game that would have felt hard-done by.  OWU wasn't pelting the goal by any stretch in the last 15 minutes, and the Lords outshot them in both halves.

[blooter442]

That was the 1st  time in Jay Martin's career that he lost to the same team twice in one year?   If that is true that is very impressive.

Don't know how I managed to remember this, but:

I refuse to either tempt fate by jinxing OWU or pick against them, but I think Christopher Newport falls to the winner of OWU/Kenyon. CNU is really talented, but they've been crazy inconsistent and playing four straight quality opponents might be too much for them. Fun fact: not to to bury the lead for my preview, but Ohio Wesleyan has never - I'll repeat, never - lost to the same team twice in one season under Jay Martin.

For the other sections, I'll take Oneonta, Wheaton and Messiah.

Bloots, I'll have to disagree a little there.  Perhaps if only looking at that one play (and I'm as curious to see it as anyone), but if Kenyon had lost that game being up 2-0 with 60 secs left and given the totality of the game that would have felt hard-done by.  OWU wasn't pelting the goal by any stretch in the last 15 minutes, and the Lords outshot them in both halves.

Definitely a fair point - I was only referencing that one play. From what it sounded like, Kenyon was the better side on the day, so you're right, but when you lose in the last two seconds in a conference final on a PK then that's rough. That said, I 100 percent agree that had Kenyon had failed to win after giving up two goals in the last minute they would have a right to feel robbed.

[PaulNewman]

And here is a pretty good look....may have to watch it 2-3 times.  Play comes right after 1:15 in the video.  Other goals, including for OWU are in it.  Looks like a pretty clear-cut foul in the box to me....and you can't not call it just because 3 secs are left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTeEDVF5_M

[Mr.Right]

If this is Montclair St's video feed I am hoping they are not hosting to the Final 4

[Mr.Right]

And here is a pretty good look....may have to watch it 2-3 times.  Play comes right after 1:15 in the video.  Other goals, including for OWU are in it.  Looks like a pretty clear-cut foul in the box to me....and you can't not call it just because 3 secs are left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTeEDVF5_M

Nice strike by Amolo but I cannot believe with 2 seconds left that OWU defender would slide tackle that Kenyon player in the box. Really bonehead play in my view because the way it looked there is no way he would have gotten that shot off before the buzzer. You must know the situation and if this ref had called a PK earlier than he would do it again. NEVER leave your feet and slide tackle a guy like that in the box. Bonehead play

[blooter442]

And here is a pretty good look....may have to watch it 2-3 times.  Play comes right after 1:15 in the video.  Other goals, including for OWU are in it.  Looks like a pretty clear-cut foul in the box to me....and you can't not call it just because 3 secs are left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTeEDVF5_M

Yup, definite penalty.

Great pen by Barnes, that's a fantastic shot in that situation. I've seen tons of kickers either flub the kick or go on the ground, so the fact that he went top corner and got it was very impressive.

[Mr.Right]

Do we have any idea of the time the selection show is on Monday? usually it's at 1pm but just wondering

[blooter442]

Do we have any idea of the time the selection show is on Monday? usually it's at 1pm but just wondering

Think I heard that women are 1, men 1:30.

[PaulNewman]

Scranton knocks off E'town.