Greatest of all time?

[gordonmann]

Sydney Moss just completed a season in which she did the following:

* Was named Player of the Year by D3hoops; she's a finalist for the coaches' award and I assume she'll win that too
* Led her team to an undefeated season and national championship
* Was named the Tournament's Most Outstanding Player and scored more points in a tournament than any Division III women's player (and we think any NCAA women's player at any level)
* Notched a triple-double in the national championship game against an undefeated opponent
* Finished as the No. 1 scorer in the regular season and NCAA tournament

I'm going to do some research about who's numbers and accolades in a single season might compare on the women's side, but I'm guessing that's a list of one.

Is there anything comparable on the men's side at any point in D3 history?

Again, I'm just talking about a single season here, not greatest of all time over a career. Moss still has one more to go.

[Pat Coleman]

Sydney Moss just completed a season in which she did the following:

* Was named Player of the Year by D3hoops; she's a finalist for the coaches' award and I assume she'll win that too
* Led her team to an undefeated season and national championship
* Was named the Tournament's Most Outstanding Player and scored more points in a tournament than any Division III women's player (and we think any NCAA women's player at any level)
* Notched a triple-double in the national championship game against an undefeated opponent
* Finished as the No. 1 scorer in the regular season and NCAA tournament

I'm going to do some research about who's numbers and accolades in a single season might compare on the women's side, but I'm guessing that's a list of one.

Is there anything comparable on the men's side at any point in D3 history?

Again, I'm just talking about a single season here, not greatest of all time over a career. Moss still has one more to go.

I don't know all the details but in terms of men's basketball I would definitely look at the season Greg Grant had for Trenton State in 1989. The Lions didn't win the title but he was the MOP of the tournament even while playing for the runner-up.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Found this for you, Gordon, in terms of scoring in a tournament (minimum three games - through 2014 tournament):

Division I - 177—Sheryl Swoopes, Texas Tech, 1993 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_final_four_records_book/2015/tournament.pdf)
Division II - 149—Johannah Leedham, Franklin Pierce, 2009 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_basketball_champs_records/2014/d2/champs.pdf)
Division III - 162—Crystal Coleman, Bishop, 1986 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_basketball_champs_records/2014/d3/champs.pdf)

[sac]

Jeff Gibbs, Otterbein  2002

23.2 pts, 16.3 rebounds per game


First player that came to mind.

[Pat Coleman]

Found this for you, Gordon, in terms of scoring in a tournament (minimum three games - through 2014 tournament):

Division I - 177—Sheryl Swoopes, Texas Tech, 1993 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_final_four_records_book/2015/tournament.pdf)
Division II - 149—Johannah Leedham, Franklin Pierce, 2009 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_basketball_champs_records/2014/d2/champs.pdf)
Division III - 162—Crystal Coleman, Bishop, 1986 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_basketball_champs_records/2014/d3/champs.pdf)

Right -- she broke all those records so I'm sure Gordon is aware of them.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Pat - I saw the...

(and we think any NCAA women's player at any level)

... and was trying to assist.

[gordonmann]

Thanks for confirming, Dave. I didn't know about d2 so that's helpful.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

This gets more interesting, by the way:

Division I MEN: 184, Glen Rice, Michigan, 1989 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_final4/2015/3Tournament.pdf)
Division II MEN: 185—Jack Sullivan, Mt. St. Mary's, 1957 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_champs_records/2014/d2/champs.pdf)
Division III MEN: 177—Michael Nogelo, Williams, 1998 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_champs_records/2014/d3/champs.pdf)

She has shattered the records for all three divisions in both genders... amazing.

[magicman]

Dave or Gordon,

How many points did she score in the tournament?

[mailsy]

211 from looking at the box scores for the six games.

[Coach C]

How about Andre Foreman at Salisbury from the early 90s? Was a dominating scorer who also managed to be unselfish with the ball. Certainly one of the best I have ever seen.

[magicman]

211 from looking at the box scores for the six games.

Thanks mailsy, I was too tired too look up all 6 games at 4 AM.    Plus K.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Hmm... actually the total was 197.

[Ralph Turner]

Sydney Moss just completed a season in which she did the following:

* Was named Player of the Year by D3hoops; she's a finalist for the coaches' award and I assume she'll win that too
* Led her team to an undefeated season and national championship
* Was named the Tournament's Most Outstanding Player and scored more points in a tournament than any Division III women's player (and we think any NCAA women's player at any level)
* Notched a triple-double in the national championship game against an undefeated opponent
* Finished as the No. 1 scorer in the regular season and NCAA tournament

I'm going to do some research about who's numbers and accolades in a single season might compare on the women's side, but I'm guessing that's a list of one.

Is there anything comparable on the men's side at any point in D3 history?

Again, I'm just talking about a single season here, not greatest of all time over a career. Moss still has one more to go.

Ronda Jo Miller, the All-American woman from Gallaudet in the late 1990's and All-Decade team.

( I came across her when I was doing some research on McMurry's Tara Richardson, the Josten winner in 2008. Tara had 2000 points and 1000 rebounds in her career.)

Is she in the picture for Greatest of all time?

[gordonmann]

Miller might be in the conversation for her career but I'm not aware if her having a single season like Moss did.