2015 Mid Atlantic Region

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Shooter McGavin

Quote from: igotthisfeeling on October 28, 2015, 08:26:03 AM
I understand your reasoning and what not. In the end, I don't see it really being an issue as they are all going to the dance anyway. Besides F&M and Haverford will meet again in the CC Final, so one of them will have another loss on their record and the rankings will change, but for now its fun to talk about trying to predict who goes where.

Yes I agree. And there is a lot of games left to be played so I wouldn't say they are all going to the dance just yet. Anything could happen especially when you get desperate teams in conference playoffs knowing that their only way into the tournament is winning the AQ.

The CC is one of the toughest in the country. Last year you had #2 vs #4 in the final so any of the teams making playoffs in that conference can win it. There are no guarantees that F&M and Haverford make the final although that's what I would bet on happening as you said yourself.

Will be interested in seeing how this weeks games play out with nasty weather and conference playoffs bids on the line. Usually brings out the best in teams.

backyarddawg

Any cancellations so far in the Mid-Atlantic?

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Quote from: backyarddawg on October 28, 2015, 12:00:17 PM
Any cancellations so far in the Mid-Atlantic?

Messiah and Stevenson postponed until tomorrow.

Mid-Atlantic Fan

NCAA 2nd Release

   Mid-Atlantic   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1.   Franklin & Marshall   14-1-0   14-1-0
2.   Haverford   12-3-0   12-3-0
3.   Lycoming   13-1-2   13-1-2
4.   Elizabethtown   15-1-1   15-1-1
5.   Eastern   13-1-2   13-1-2
6.   Dickinson   9-3-3   9-3-3
7.   Messiah   11-4-1   11-4-1
8.   Johns Hopkins   8-4-3   8-4-3
9.   Gettysburg   9-4-1   9-4-1

Mid-Atlantic Fan

http://www.d3soccer.com/rankings/2015/Men/regional-rankings-2

Pretty much what we expected from this region. Here is the link to the data sheets.

Mid-Atlantic Fan

MID-ATLANTIC REGION (data sheet)
Rank   School           Overall     SOS      RvR     Prev.

1.   F&M                14-1-0        0.559      2-1-0       1
2.   Haverford           12-3-0        0.606      4-3-0       4
3.   Lycoming           13-1-2        0.554      1-1-0       2
4.   Elizabethtown   15-1-1        0.526      2-1-0       3
5.   Eastern           13-1-2        0.508      2-0-0       5
6.   Dickinson           9-3-3        0.566      0-2-1       6
7.   Messiah           11-4-1        0.593      0-3-0       7
8.   Johns Hopkins   8-4-3        0.595      0-3-2       8
9.   Gettysburg   9-4-1        0.546     0-3-1       --

backyarddawg

Just looked over stats and believe committee got Haverford RvR wrong:

Wins- F&M, Dickinson, Gettysburg, JHU and Stockton
Losses- Montclair St and Stevens

If the once ranked always ranked isn't into account then they are 5-2 as Wesleyan dropped out.

MAF or LGOTB am I wrong?


Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 28, 2015, 02:00:50 PM
MID-ATLANTIC REGION (data sheet)
Rank   School           Overall     SOS      RvR     Prev.

1.   F&M                14-1-0        0.559      2-1-0       1
2.   Haverford           12-3-0        0.606      4-3-0       4
3.   Lycoming           13-1-2        0.554      1-1-0       2
4.   Elizabethtown   15-1-1        0.526      2-1-0       3
5.   Eastern           13-1-2        0.508      2-0-0       5
6.   Dickinson           9-3-3        0.566      0-2-1       6
7.   Messiah           11-4-1        0.593      0-3-0       7
8.   Johns Hopkins   8-4-3        0.595      0-3-2       8
9.   Gettysburg   9-4-1        0.546     0-3-1       --

Flying Weasel

#292
Gettysburg wasn't ranked last week and Wesleyan was, so Haverford's record versus teams ranked last week is correct at 4-3-0.

What is shown in the data sheets (and on D3soccer.com) is the data used to rank teams this week.  So that data can't be based on who was ranked this week because that isn't yet known when the data sheets are compiled and given to the committee.

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Quote from: Flying Weasel on October 28, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
Gettysburg wasn't ranked last week and Wesleyan was, so Haverford's record versus teams ranked last week is correct at 4-3-0.

What is shown in the data sheets (and on D3soccer.com) is the data used to rank teams this week.  So that data can't be based on who was ranked this week because that isn't yet known when the data sheets are compiled and given to the committee.

There is usually only 8 teams for this region too so not sure why they have 9 this week? Anybody know about that and why that might be?

backyarddawg

FW got it- makes sense as they would be 5-2 going into next week based on this past weeks rankings?

MAF no clue maybe a tie?

Flying Weasel

Lycoming's game vs. Oneonta St. was cancelled.  No way to know if that's to Lycoming's favor or not.  A win would have been huge should they not get the Commonwealth AQ, but would a loss have doomed them if they needed an at-large berth?

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Quote from: Flying Weasel on October 28, 2015, 05:12:01 PM
Lycoming's game vs. Oneonta St. was cancelled.  No way to know if that's to Lycoming's favor or not.  A win would have been huge should they not get the Commonwealth AQ, but would a loss have doomed them if they needed an at-large berth?

Rumor from a few colleagues of mine that live up that way said that they had every intention of playing the game. The reffing crew got their and observed and spoke with both teams. Seems like Oneonta St. didn't care either way and that the refs didn't want to get wet. I also heard through the grapevine that the field drained pretty well considering all the rain the region has got but a few puddles made it "unplayable" in the refs eyes.

Once again this is all hearsay, but it would make sense considering Oneonta St. has clinched the top spot in the SUNYAC and most likely have a spot locked in the NCAA's. Any other games get cancelled? I was looking forward to this game today.   

Mr.Right

Lycoming better hope they get to that final because Eastern and ETOWN both with 1 losses and right behind Lycoming have 2 regionally ranked wins

Mr.Right

The refs have final say over cancellations. Now usually you have regional refs so I imagine Lycoming knew the refs but not sure...Lycoming needed that game for SOS, Oneonta did not. That .556 SOS could have been boosted significantly. Alos, even if Lycoming lost but they had a 1-2-0 RvR but a .580 SOS that looks VERY Good.

Flying Weasel

Oneonta St. maybe could have lifted Lycoming's SOS to around .570, but not .580.  But combined with Messiah in the Commenwealth final, an SOS around .580 wouldn't have been out of the question. (The Commonwealth semifinal won't help much at all, but wouldn't hurt.)

As it now stands without the Oneonta game, Lyco's SOS probably can only rise to the high .560's.