2015 Mid Atlantic Region

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

Eastern at Salisbury

Etown at Alvernia

Misericordia at Camden

Big day for this region!!

[lastguyoffthebench]

I'll go with...

Eastern 1, Salisbury 2

Etown 1, Alvernia 1

Miseri 0, Camden 2

[Mr.Right]

It looks like Eastern needs that Salisbury game more than Salisbury.

Also, would have to be a big win if Miseri can beat a RUC team who is 51-3-3 at home. ++ for them taking on the challenge. They beat York and if they get this one and Messiah they should be good to go come November. Easier said than done

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

I don't think Misericordia will get either of those 2 games but who knows with the way things have been going so far this year.

[Mr.Right]

I have never seen that team play. What is their style?

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

Historically rough and aggressive. Kick it long and hound you. It wears teams down. Normally have a lot of size to their players so they are good in the air. From what I heard through the grapevine is that both their goalies were injured going into the season. I am not sure if either has recovered but if they are 4-1-1 with their 3rd string goalie then they are probably very happy. Coach Edkins has been at the helm for quite a while and has had plenty of success.

Good wins for them so far have been Scranton 1-0 and York 3-2. They lost to Arcadia 3-1 and tied Ursinus who didn't pick up their first win until last week. I have heard that they are down from past years and had a rough time with their preseason scrimmages. But that's why it is preseason!

I am eager to see how they progress throughout the remainder of the year especially against Messiah, Camden, and Dickinson. I have not seen them play this year yet either but will try and catch a game at some point. Being in a weak conference will benefit them though.

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

And I'll go with...

Eastern 1, Salisbury 1

Etown 1, Alvernia 2

Miseri 2, Camden 5

[Mr.Right]

Historically rough and aggressive. Kick it long and hound you. It wears teams down. Normally have a lot of size to their players so they are good in the air. From what I heard through the grapevine is that both their goalies were injured going into the season. I am not sure if either has recovered but if they are 4-1-1 with their 3rd string goalie then they are probably very happy. Coach Edkins has been at the helm for quite a while and has had plenty of success.

Good wins for them so far have been Scranton 1-0 and York 3-2. They lost to Arcadia 3-1 and tied Ursinus who didn't pick up their first win until last week. I have heard that they are down from past years and had a rough time with their preseason scrimmages. But that's why it is preseason!

I am eager to see how they progress throughout the remainder of the year especially against Messiah, Camden, and Dickinson. I have not seen them play this year yet either but will try and catch a game at some point. Being in a weak conference will benefit them though.

If this is their style that should play into RUC's hands..correct?  Have these teams matched up the past 3 years and what were the results. Seems that style might work nice against Messiah just sit 10 deep and counter, everyone drop when you lose the ball. Compact the middle of the field.

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

I think this is the first time these 2 teams are playing each other in a long time or ever. They have not played each other in the past 4 years.

And they have been blanked 3-0 and 3-0 against Messiah the last 2 years. Will see how they match up this year with Messiah. Still don't think they even stand a chance though against Messiah or Camden.

[Mr.Right]

Well you are predicting RUC getting 5 goals. That tells me this team is either more spaced out on the field than I thought, not organized defensively, 3rd string GK or they give up after letting in 2-3 goals and throw in the towel

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

They gave up 3 to Arcadia and 2 to Ursinus. Camden is better offensively IMO and I think it will be a high scoring game. I think the physicality of Camden and trash talking aspect will get in Misericordia's head. If Camden strikes early I think they could put up 3 in the half. 3-1 at half 5-2 final. If Camden has some fast kids up top I think they will toast the defense. From what I hear they have good aggressive CB's but are very slow on and off the ball. Pace all day gives an edge to Camden if they have it. Haven't seen a Camden game since the NCAA Championship game vs Messiah two years ago. But you and many others praise them so from all the hear say I give Camden the edge. A more realistic score could be 4-2 or 4-1 or 3-2 or 3-1. I do believe there will be plenty of goals in this game.

I am not trying to slam Misericordia but if it's all about who you play and how you stack up against them then I am not won over yet because they don't have top tier results like other teams in the region. That's why I don't understand Kings being regionally ranked. Yes they are 6-1 but played all cupcake teams and don't have a challenging game until they play Eastern or Misericordia. We punish Messiah for playing a tough schedule (tougher than most) and being 4-2-1 after graduating/losing basically their entire starting 11. But we reward Kings for being 6-1 or Etown for 1 good win against Dickinson and a poor showing in a loss to F&M. I don't get it? If the system is going to be "Hey you won a lot of games but didn't play anybody but here's your reward for winning a lot" then it needs to be that way for everyone not just a select few.

Saying that Messiah might not get an AQ is insane. It's way too early and if it ended today they should get in. Just because they aren't the Messiah of old (yet) doesn't mean they aren't a good team.

I will take a 3-1-3 team like Alvernia who played F&M to a tough 1-0 OT loss and probably should have tied 0-0, tied Eastern and Cabrini, and beat Dickinson over a 6-1 Kings or Etown team who have only played 1 or 2 tough teams and couldn't get results. Just my thought process but I hope it's a logical one? 

[Mr.Right]

Messiah might not get an Pool C. It has nothing to do with if they are a better team than the results are showing. Many teams have this problem. It is all about the results and record v ranked teams, SOS, OWP,etc. They will not have played to many ranked teams and the ones that might be ranked they have lost to. CMU and Rowan. York will not be ranked if they lose 1 or 2 more. Miser might / might not. Lycoming should but if they go 0-3-0 against Oneonta, Roch and Messsiah they will not be ranked. NUmbers game babe..

BTW after Rowan was peaking my interest this afternoon I went to their website and they have a 1:20 youtube highlight of the Messiah game that they won 4-2. You tell me if that Messiah team looks like one's in the past. The 1st goal was weak defending and tackling as the defender dropped off so much the Rowan kid had a free shot, keeper might of gotten it. 2nd goal was an absolutely horrendous GK mistake, right thru his hands from 40 yards out. If I was betting on the game I would have been screaming that the GK was throwing the match. 3rd goal was a nice ball forward as Messiah most likely was pushing numbers forward and Rowan kid was in on GK 1v1. GK came to early and the kid chipped him. Horrible GK error. 4th goal was a deflection off a corner and a weak deflection at that.Total loss of concentration

[lastguyoffthebench]

Messiah needs to hope that Rowan and CMU are not regionally ranked time come NCAA releases...  If by chance Lycoming wins the MAC this year, then no... I do not think Messiah will get in.   Plenty of season left and you could say that Messiah's season now hinges on the games at E-town and at Lycoming, but the games could prove to be irrelevant if they snatch up the AQ.   With that being said, Messiah will win the conference, leaving Lycoming hoping for an at large bid.

Rowan will be a mid-table NJAC team, CMU most likely mid-table UAA.  Gettysburg a mid-table Centennial and York will be a mid-table in the CAC.   The only reason Messiah SOS is higher than what it appears is because those are strong conferences and it was smart scheduling done by the Falcons.


On the the Miseri game:
I watched the Miseri-MSU in 2013 at CMU... Miseri had a few decent chances.  New year, new team and just looking at Miseri schedule thus far, it's hard to tell how good/bad they are.   I think a 2-0, 3-1 scoreline is about right in Camden today.   After today, RUC is off for a week in preparation for a home game vs Rowan (lost last year 1-0)... 

[Flying Weasel]

Rowan will be a mid-table NJAC team, CMU most likely mid-table UAA.  Gettysburg a mid-table Centennial and York will be a mid-table in the CAC.   The only reason Messiah SOS is higher than what it appears is because those are strong conferences and it was smart scheduling done by the Falcons.

The SOS that will be used by the NCAA D-III selection committee has nothing to do (directly, that is) with any conference strength.  Indirectly, yes.  1/3 of the SOS to be used is based on the Opponents' Opponents' Winning Percentage (OOWP) which is bolstered by a strong conference.  Unless someone is doing some serious databasing of schedules and results and even more serious number crunching, we only have general informed guesses as to the SOS of teams, but no accurate idea of the SOS computed uusing the formula that will be used by the selection committee. 

Messiah's Plan A is win the conference title and AQ.  The concurrent Plan B involves beating teams like E-town, but hoping that otherwise E-town keeps on winning and secures a regional ranking by the NCAA committee thus helping Messiah's SOS and record vs. ranked opponents. 

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

Messiah might not get an Pool C. It has nothing to do with if they are a better team than the results are showing. Many teams have this problem. It is all about the results and record v ranked teams, SOS, OWP,etc. They will not have played to many ranked teams and the ones that might be ranked they have lost to. CMU and Rowan. York will not be ranked if they lose 1 or 2 more. Miser might / might not. Lycoming should but if they go 0-3-0 against Oneonta, Roch and Messsiah they will not be ranked. NUmbers game babe..

BTW after Rowan was peaking my interest this afternoon I went to their website and they have a 1:20 youtube highlight of the Messiah game that they won 4-2. You tell me if that Messiah team looks like one's in the past. The 1st goal was weak defending and tackling as the defender dropped off so much the Rowan kid had a free shot, keeper might of gotten it. 2nd goal was an absolutely horrendous GK mistake, right thru his hands from 40 yards out. If I was betting on the game I would have been screaming that the GK was throwing the match. 3rd goal was a nice ball forward as Messiah most likely was pushing numbers forward and Rowan kid was in on GK 1v1. GK came to early and the kid chipped him. Horrible GK error. 4th goal was a deflection off a corner and a weak deflection at that.Total loss of concentration

Yes I get that. It is all numbers sir. And I said they aren't the Messiah of old...yet. Btw Camden over Misericordia 7-1......told ya so.