2015 Mid Atlantic Region

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

We are three days away from the all important first poll?

What's the mid-Atlantic look like after this weekends results?

1. F&M
2. Haverford (SOS is so much higher then all others and will grow more with showdown with F&M)
3. Etown
4. Eastern (beat Lycoming)
5. Lycoming (loss to Eastern)
6. Dickinson
7. Messiah
8. JHU
9. Kings
10. Drew

4/5 top 5 all win. Eastern tied. Messiah and Dickinson win and Hopkins lost to F&M. Gettysburg, Drew, and Arcadia all lose pretty much guaranteeing an AQ to get in the tournament.

Massey Ratings after this weekend:

2. F&M
5. Haverford
11. Lycoming
13. Etown
16. Eastern
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30. Messiah
33. Dickinson
45. Hopkins
Cabrini 10-1-3 only listed 8-1-3 on Massey. They might jump into top 8 but I think you will see them at #9.
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55. Gettysburg
75. Kings
83. York

I think that is how you will see the top 5 for the NCAA Regional Rankings as well. Maybe flip Lycoming and Etown.

[backyarddawg]

Should be interesting as I think pool C is very light this year with no Landmark, CSAC teams making it other then Etown.  Is Cabrini the next Randolph if they get upset in CSAC playoffs?

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

Cabrini will not make the tournament unless they win the CSAC.

[backyarddawg]

Where are Massey ratings at?

[TennesseeJed]

Where are Massey ratings at?

http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=csoc&sub=NCAA-D3

[D3soccerwatcher]

After a disappointing 2-0 outing against Lycoming College (a very physical team who currently are among the national D3 leaders in number of fouls and yellow cards) earlier in the week, Messiah rebounded nicely against Arcadia 3-0 (check the box score).  Arcadia came into the contest with a better record than Messiah and also ranked ahead of Messiah in the conference.  The box score looks like Messiah stats from prior years...might they be starting to find their stride?

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

After a disappointing 2-0 outing against Lycoming College (a very physical team who currently are among the national D3 leaders in number of fouls and yellow cards) earlier in the week, Messiah rebounded nicely against Arcadia 3-0 (check the box score).  Arcadia came into the contest with a better record than Messiah and also ranked ahead of Messiah in the conference.  The box score looks like Messiah stats from prior years...might they be starting to find their stride?

A better record doesn't always mean the team is better. If you look at other Arcadia game box scores, like against Lycoming for example, they were out-shot 34-6 but still managed to get a 1-1 result from the game. Does that mean that the two teams are equal? Probably not. Just like Arcadia having a better record than Messiah entering the game. Doesn't mean that they are better. I think if you took a poll and asked who would win the game between Messiah and Arcadia 95% of the voters would take Messiah.

As for finding their stride, Messiah is still figuring things out. They are a very good team with a lot of quality. Other teams wish they had the talent that this current team has. But with expectations so high to "be Messiah" it doesn't make them look as good. Messiah has played well in all the games they should have won. They have played average in the games that were a toss up. They will always have a target on their back no matter how good or mediocre they are.

Also, you need to take into consideration that Messiah was at home for their homecoming game after a tough loss. It was almost certain they would bounce back the way they did.

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

NSCAA Regional Ranking Predictions:

1. F&M                13-0-0
2. Eastern           12-0-2
3. Etown             13-1-1
4. Lycoming        11-1-2
5. Haverford        11-3-0
6. Cabrini            10-1-3
7. Dickinson        9-3-2           
8. Kings              12-2-1
9. Messiah           9-4-1
10. Hopkins         7-4-2

RV: Drew (10-3-2), Gettysburg (8-4-1)

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NCAA Regional Ranking Predictions:

1. F&M
2. Haverford
3. Etown
4. Lycoming
5. Eastern
6. Dickinson
7. Messiah
8. Cabrini/Hopkins

[Mr.Right]

After a disappointing 2-0 outing against Lycoming College (a very physical team who currently are among the national D3 leaders in number of fouls and yellow cards) earlier in the week, Messiah rebounded nicely against Arcadia 3-0 (check the box score).  Arcadia came into the contest with a better record than Messiah and also ranked ahead of Messiah in the conference.  The box score looks like Messiah stats from prior years...might they be starting to find their stride?

Either way Messiah must win the AQ, and even then there chances of getting out of the 1st round are slim. I do not see them being a Sweet 16 team this year.

[D3soccerwatcher]

After a disappointing 2-0 outing against Lycoming College (a very physical team who currently are among the national D3 leaders in number of fouls and yellow cards) earlier in the week, Messiah rebounded nicely against Arcadia 3-0 (check the box score).  Arcadia came into the contest with a better record than Messiah and also ranked ahead of Messiah in the conference.  The box score looks like Messiah stats from prior years...might they be starting to find their stride?

A better record doesn't always mean the team is better. If you look at other Arcadia game box scores, like against Lycoming for example, they were out-shot 34-6 but still managed to get a 1-1 result from the game. Does that mean that the two teams are equal? Probably not. Just like Arcadia having a better record than Messiah entering the game. Doesn't mean that they are better. I think if you took a poll and asked who would win the game between Messiah and Arcadia 95% of the voters would take Messiah.

As for finding their stride, Messiah is still figuring things out. They are a very good team with a lot of quality. Other teams wish they had the talent that this current team has. But with expectations so high to "be Messiah" it doesn't make them look as good. Messiah has played well in all the games they should have won. They have played average in the games that were a toss up. They will always have a target on their back no matter how good or mediocre they are.

Also, you need to take into consideration that Messiah was at home for their homecoming game after a tough loss. It was almost certain they would bounce back the way they did.

All true - but doesn't take away the fact that the stats for this game were very Messiah-like.  I think Messiah will win out the rest of the season which ends in about a week and half and will advance to the Conf Final where the will meet Lycoming.  Messiah will have to win the Conf to get the AQ and advance to the National Tourney.

[lastguyoffthebench]

I'd swap out Kings and have Drew in that slot.   Agree with everything else.   Haverford, battle-tested, will be the number 1 team in Mid-Atlantic by the final NCAA regional rankings.

[D3soccerwatcher]

After a disappointing 2-0 outing against Lycoming College (a very physical team who currently are among the national D3 leaders in number of fouls and yellow cards) earlier in the week, Messiah rebounded nicely against Arcadia 3-0 (check the box score).  Arcadia came into the contest with a better record than Messiah and also ranked ahead of Messiah in the conference.  The box score looks like Messiah stats from prior years...might they be starting to find their stride?

Either way Messiah must win the AQ, and even then there chances of getting out of the 1st round are slim. I do not see them being a Sweet 16 team this year.

Agree Messiah must win the Conf to get the AQ.  As FW has pointed out, there does not appear to be a Plan B.

[lastguyoffthebench]

NCAA Regional Ranking Predictions:

1. F&M
2. Haverford
3. Eastern (based on result over Lycoming, but never a guarantee)
4. Lycoming (draw vs Rochester not as strong)
5. E-town (tied Alvernia, as did Eastern).  Eastern win % a factor, bumping E-town
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6. Dickinson
7. Messiah
8. Kings*

1-5 fairly set.   Gets realllly thin in terms of 6-8 slots.    Expect JHU and Drew to also be in the mix. 
*Kings possibly not ranked until SOS improves and will need help...

[lastguyoffthebench]

Cabrini will not make the tournament unless they win the CSAC.

Cabrini should never lose the CSAC. Ever.

[Mid-Atlantic Fan]

NSCAA Regional Rankings: Poll 6-Oct. 20th

Rank                School                   W-L-T (Massey Rating)
1   Franklin & Marshall College         13-0-0 (2)
2   Eastern University                      12-0-2 (14)
3   Elizabethtown College                13-1-1 (8)
4   Lycoming College                       11-1-2 (9)
5   Haverford College                       11-3-0 (5)
6   Cabrini College                            9-1-3  (117)
7   Dickinson College                       9-3-2  (34)
8   Messiah College                          9-4-1  (30)
9   Drew University                          10-3-2 (92)
10   Johns Hopkins University          7-4-2  (48)

http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4718