Pool C -- 2015

[ExTartanPlayer]

My question is: If UMHB takes care of business against ETBU and puts on an impressive demonstration and HSU struggles but wins against LC. What happens with Pool B at that point?

HSU.

If this was a true three-way tie situation (HSU beats UMHB beats ETBU, with zero other losses from ETBU) this would be much stickier.  But when there are effectively two "tied" teams and one has the h2h win, I think it should go to the h2h victor.  Yes, even if the h2h loser beat the team that beat the h2h winner.

[USee]

One thing that I found interesting and important is that Mount Union and Whitewater wound up on opposite sides because that's just how it happened.  If they wind up on the same side or even in the same region, fine.  If not, also fine.  But it would be bad for the process here if the committee intentionally put them together.

True but I have a skeptical eye about intentionality.  You could take Pat's bracket and literally swap Wheaton w UWW with zero impact except pitting the purples in the semis.  Those schools are 90 miles apart.

Are you advocating for intentionally pairing UWW and Mount Union on the same side?

Not at all. I am just pointing out it the randomness could have been not so random.

[d-train]

How does a 3-6 PLU look once they knock out Linfield this weekend? Do they need Whitworth to lose to L&C? 

[wildcatdad22]

How does a 3-6 PLU look once they knock out Linfield this weekend? Do they need Whitworth to lose to L&C? 

That's some pretty funny stuff right there!

[d-train]

How does a 3-6 PLU look once they knock out Linfield this weekend? Do they need Whitworth to lose to L&C? 

That's some pretty funny stuff right there!

You got the memo about sending your JV team, right? 

[wildcatdad22]

How does a 3-6 PLU look once they knock out Linfield this weekend? Do they need Whitworth to lose to L&C? 

That's some pretty funny stuff right there!

You got the memo about sending your JV team, right? 

No the kid didn't tell me about that memo!

[d-train]

Win or lose, PLU's all important SOS number is going to take a major jump up this weekend. (Plus the additional result against a Regionally Ranked team.)  I'm just a little concerned that a 7th loss would knock them off the Pool C bubble. 

[emma17]

One thing that I found interesting and important is that Mount Union and Whitewater wound up on opposite sides because that's just how it happened.  If they wind up on the same side or even in the same region, fine.  If not, also fine.  But it would be bad for the process here if the committee intentionally put them together.

True but I have a skeptical eye about intentionality.  You could take Pat's bracket and literally swap Wheaton w UWW with zero impact except pitting the purples in the semis.  Those schools are 90 miles apart.

I'm chanting:  Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it.
It would be terrific for D3. 
Using Pat's bracket, I'd prefer UWW and UWO on the same side so there is no chance they can meet in the Stagg. 
In addiiton, the current bracket prevents Mt from playing a national power.  This needs to come to an end at some point.  Usee's idea seems to make perfect sense.  I might swap Dubuque and UWP. 

[wesleydad]

One thing that I found interesting and important is that Mount Union and Whitewater wound up on opposite sides because that's just how it happened.  If they wind up on the same side or even in the same region, fine.  If not, also fine.  But it would be bad for the process here if the committee intentionally put them together.

True but I have a skeptical eye about intentionality.  You could take Pat's bracket and literally swap Wheaton w UWW with zero impact except pitting the purples in the semis.  Those schools are 90 miles apart.

I agree with Emma, which in itself is unusual so why not this.  With the way things have played out this year there is not reason that they should be separated until the Stagg based on prior performance.  I hope that the brackets just get filled and if UWW and Mount are on the same side so be it.  I am not a fan of change for change sake, but this year maybe it would just make sense.

I'm chanting:  Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it.
It would be terrific for D3. 
Using Pat's bracket, I'd prefer UWW and UWO on the same side so there is no chance they can meet in the Stagg. 
In addiiton, the current bracket prevents Mt from playing a national power.  This needs to come to an end at some point.  Usee's idea seems to make perfect sense.  I might swap Dubuque and UWP.

[wally_wabash]

One thing that I found interesting and important is that Mount Union and Whitewater wound up on opposite sides because that's just how it happened.  If they wind up on the same side or even in the same region, fine.  If not, also fine.  But it would be bad for the process here if the committee intentionally put them together.

True but I have a skeptical eye about intentionality.  You could take Pat's bracket and literally swap Wheaton w UWW with zero impact except pitting the purples in the semis.  Those schools are 90 miles apart.

I'm chanting:  Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it.
It would be terrific for D3. 
Using Pat's bracket, I'd prefer UWW and UWO on the same side so there is no chance they can meet in the Stagg. 
In addiiton, the current bracket prevents Mt from playing a national power.  This needs to come to an end at some point.  Usee's idea seems to make perfect sense.  I might swap Dubuque and UWP.

Mount Union gets an easy ride to the finals.  Ah, that ol' chestnut. 

I don't think it's good for D3 to have not the two best teams playing in the nationally televised championship.  If that's Mount Union and Whitewater again, that's fine.  But it would do a disservice to the tournament if those two were placed on the same side of the bracket intentionally with the sole purpose being to eliminate one of them before Salem.  I think Pat's bracket and explanation that UMU and UWW winding up on opposite sides happened organically was important and I hope (realize this is a long shot) that it helps squash conspiracy theories about bracketing. 

[Ralph Turner]

What a bracket!

Linfield vs Whitworth
UMHB vs HSU

For me that is #1 versus a very strong #6 and maybe #5
And, #3 versus #4.

On the other side of the upper right bracket, i have a #2 Wesley vs #8 Norwich.
For me, it is #5 or #6 W&L versus #7Albright.

It's rough on the Islands!

Let me see how UMHB does against ETBU and how Wesley handles Willy Pat (which should be a romp).

I may re-seed the bracket, #2 HSU versus #3 UMHB and then #4 Wesley. 

I believe that UMHB/HSU has the toughest draw to the Stagg!

[art76]

All things considered, (I'm talking about the travel restrictions here), it would be awesome if the bracket could be set so that no two teams from the same conference met until the Stagg bowl. Ie, St. Thomas/St. John's or Oshkosh/Whitewater or Cortland/Alfred. However, travel expenses almost always trump this as a possibility.

[wabndy]

In addiiton, the current bracket prevents Mt from playing a national power. This needs to come to an end at some point.  Usee's idea seems to make perfect sense.  I might swap Dubuque and UWP.

Dude - look at the top four seeds.  Three of the four would have rather clear roads to the quarterfinals.  The fourth?  Sorry Linfield - you should have thought of that in 1858 when you established your fine institution in a D3 island.  What? Football hadn't been invented in 1858?  Well - thems the breaks.  Unless you are on an island, earning that #1 seed undoubtedly gets you a cupcake for round 1 and probably a rest your starters in the 4th quarter round 2.  That would be true for St. Thomas, Oshkosh, or Mt. Union in this bracket or in just about anything we've seen in recent years when the NCAA has been slightly less stingy about buying plane tickets. 

Of the projected 5-8 seeds, I don't think anyone could honestly argue that pairing Mt. Union with a Johns Hopkins for the quarters is a gimme.  The only other realistic quarters pairing (taking travel into consideration) would be Wesley and Johns Hopkins has the stronger resume.

I just don't buy this argument that Mt Union enjoys an artificially created scheduling bias that clears the path for them to Salem each and every year.  If they weren't legit - really really legit - then they would have been knocked off by someone other than Whitewater once or twice between 2004 and now.

[Ralph Turner]

 I just noticed something about Pat's projected brackets.

We could have an all-South Semifinal.

JHU versus TMC on the left.

HSU/UMHB/W&L versus Huntingdon/Hendrix on the right.

Not likely but it makes for a good bracket.

[Hawks88]

I just noticed something about Pat's projected brackets.

We could have an all-South Semifinal.

JHU versus TMC on the left.

HSU/UMHB/W&L versus Huntingdon/Hendrix on the right.

Not likely but it makes for a good bracket.

Back-to-back trips to St. Thomas and UWW? Piece of cake.