Pool C -- 2015

[desertcat1]

The Island west teams could have TWO teams this year ?    Linfiled 9-0 .  Whitworth 9-1,   

[Schwami]

Excellent work!

One suggestion: consider placing an asterisk by the teams that can also get in through Pool B.  If I am reading the handbook correctly, this would be the three independents (Finlandia, Maranatha, and Alfred State), and the teams in the ASC and SCAC.  Currently there are 5 teams remaining out of this Pool B bunch (in no particular order):

1. UMHB
2. H-SC
3. Austin
4. TLU
5. Trinity

[wally_wabash]

Excellent work!

One suggestion: consider placing an asterisk by the teams that can also get in through Pool B.  If I am reading the handbook correctly, this would be the three independents (Finlandia, Maranatha, and Alfred State), and the teams in the ASC and SCAC.  Currently there are 5 teams remaining out of this Pool B bunch (in no particular order):

1. UMHB
2. H-SC
3. Austin
4. TLU
5. Trinity

I'll add that to the list of table maintenance to be done later tonight.   

Regarding Pool B, I think it's basically a de facto AQ for the ASC champion, however, Trinity makes it interesting if they run the table here and something nutty happens like TLU beats UMHB who beats Hardin-Simmons.  This is a scenario that the rest of the Pool C teams don't want happening.  An undefeated Trinity plus single loss UMHB and single loss Hardin-Simmons could very reasonably (and justifiably) consume three of the seven available at-large bids. 

[cawcdad]

The Island west teams could have TWO teams this year ?    Linfiled 9-0 .  Whitworth 9-1,   

Happened a couple of years ago when Pacific Lutheran played at Linfield in the first round.

[bleedpurple]

The Island west teams could have TWO teams this year ?    Linfiled 9-0 .  Whitworth 9-1,   

Happened a couple of years ago when Pacific Lutheran played at Linfield in the first round.

Of all the dynamics and back and forth of the D-III playoffs, this is my least favorite i believe. The whole "who gets in Pool C" debate is one thing.  Two teams being matched up for financial reasons when they  both should have had more favorable draws is just plain irritating.

[wally_wabash]

Here's a list of Week 5 games that I think are most likely to impact the Pool B/C situation (not necessarily de facto elimination games between teams still alive):

Adrian @ Olivet
Denison @ OWU
ONU @ John Carroll
Central @ Wartburg
Bethel @ Concordia-Moorhead
UW-Platteville @ UW-Whitewater
Hardin-Simmons @ Trinity(TX)
W&J @ Thomas More
WashU @ Berry
Chicago @ Birmingham-Southern
Hendrix @ Centre
Methodist @ Maryville
All things E8.
WPI @ Hobart
Rochester @ St. Lawrence
Delaware Valley @ FDU-Florham
William Patterson @ Montclair State
Rowan @ Christopher Newport
Kean @ Frostburg State

[Bombers798891]

The Island west teams could have TWO teams this year ?    Linfiled 9-0 .  Whitworth 9-1,   

Happened a couple of years ago when Pacific Lutheran played at Linfield in the first round.

Of all the dynamics and back and forth of the D-III playoffs, this is my least favorite i believe. The whole "who gets in Pool C" debate is one thing.  Two teams being matched up for financial reasons when they  both should have had more favorable draws is just plain irritating.

Especially when you get Husson-MIT matchups on the other end

[wabndy]

Of all the dynamics and back and forth of the D-III playoffs, this is my least favorite i believe. The whole "who gets in Pool C" debate is one thing.  Two teams being matched up for financial reasons when they  both should have had more favorable draws is just plain irritating.

Fair gripe to a degree but I think we have this discussion every year.  I think the NCAA could choose to structure top seed against bottom seed.  If they did - we'd be at a 24 or 16 team bracket with lots of plane flights crisscrossing the country and we'd still identify a true national champion that no one could dispute.  You'd also get undefeated teams sitting on the couch watching the Stagg Bowl.  I think the NCAA came to the right conclusion that each of the 247 D3 football teams should control their own destiny at the start of the season.  That means a 32 team field.  To pay for a 32 team field  - that means a 2 seed somewhere may have to play a 4 seed in the opening round. 

[wally_wabash]

Alright, I've updated the Pool B/C eliminator table to bold the teams still alive and asterisks for Pool B eligible teams.  I hope that helps!

[HSCTiger74]

Alright, I've updated the Pool B/C eliminator table to bold the teams still alive and asterisks for Pool B eligible teams.  I hope that helps!

    Thanks Wally. Given that I asked someone when I was a kid why a team called the Red Tornados wore green jerseys, that will be a big help.

[hazzben]

Anyone else find it strange UW-Stout has two reps on the West Region committee, including the chair. 

That just seems highly irregular to me. Better Stout, a team that's already not gonna be on the table, than at team like UWP. Still though  (and that's not me questioning the integrity of these guys, but it is recognizing we all have natural bias)

[emma17]

Anyone else find it strange UW-Stout has two reps on the West Region committee, including the chair. 

That just seems highly irregular to me. Better Stout, a team that's already not gonna be on the table, than at team like UWP. Still though  (and that's not me questioning the integrity of these guys, but it is recognizing we all have natural bias)

No.  Someone has to help me argue on behalf of a 6-1 WIAC team like UWO last year. 

[jknezek]

No.  Someone has to help me argue on behalf of a 6-1 WIAC team like UWO last year. 

+K for a little humor on this drab Alabama morning

[wally_wabash]

Anyone else find it strange UW-Stout has two reps on the West Region committee, including the chair. 

That just seems highly irregular to me. Better Stout, a team that's already not gonna be on the table, than at team like UWP. Still though  (and that's not me questioning the integrity of these guys, but it is recognizing we all have natural bias)

No.  Someone has to help me argue on behalf of a 6-1 WIAC team like UWO last year. 

6-4.  All the games matter. 

[emma17]

Anyone else find it strange UW-Stout has two reps on the West Region committee, including the chair. 

That just seems highly irregular to me. Better Stout, a team that's already not gonna be on the table, than at team like UWP. Still though  (and that's not me questioning the integrity of these guys, but it is recognizing we all have natural bias)

No.  Someone has to help me argue on behalf of a 6-1 WIAC team like UWO last year. 

6-4.  All the games matter.

Quit confusing me.