Pool C -- 2015

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The Week 5 update to the B/C Eliminator table.  Here is a peek at the logic we are trying to apply as we go through this week to week:

1. Two-loss teams can make the tournament as Pool Cs
2. Three-loss teams never have
3. The last-time we had a conference get three teams in, the 3rd best team was the Pool A.

And with those three main points in mind:

- Three loss teams are automatically out.
- Two-loss teams are still in, unless those teams are already behind a pair of zero or one-loss teams in their own conference.  I think we're pretty close to adhering to this absolutely, but there may be a case here and there where we've knocked out a two-loss team that isn't going accumulate other useful criteria such as high SOS or wins vs. RROs. 

Thanks again to ExTartanPlayer and Bombers798891 for working through this with me.  Teams that we believe are out of at-large contention are in red, teams that I believe are still alive are in green, and Pool B eligible teams are marked with an asterisk(*), all as of Week 5 results.  And this week I've italicized teams that were newly eliminated.


   CCIW      HCAC      MIAA      NACC      NCAC      OAC   
   Carthage      Earlham      Hope      Cocnordia(Wis)      Allegheny      Muskingum   
   Augustana      Hanover      Alma      Aurora      Hiram      Marietta   
   North Park      Bluffton      Kalamazoo      Wis Lutheran      Wooster      Heidelberg   
   Millikin      Anderson      Adrian      Benedictine      Oberlin      Wilmington   
   North Central      Defiance      Trine      Lakeland      OWU      B-W   
   Elmhurst      MSJ      Olivet      CUC      Kenyon      Otterbein   
   Wheaton      Manchester      Albion      Rockford      Witt      Capital   
   IWU      Franklin                  Denison      ONU   
         RHIT                  Wabash      Mount Union   
                           DePauw      John Carroll   



   IIAC      IND      MIAC      MWC      NWC      SCIAC      UMAC      WIAC   
   BVC      Finlandia*      St. Olaf      Lawrence      L&C      Redlands      IWC      Eau Claire   
   Dubuque      Maranatha*      Carleton      Macalester      Willamette      Chapman      Martin Luther      River Falls   
   Loras            Hamline      Carroll      PLU      Whittier      Greenville      La Crosse   
   Coe            Augsburg      Ripon      UPS      P-PC      Crown      Stout   
   Simpson            C-MC      Beloit      Pacific      CMS      MacMurray      SP   
   Luther            St. John's      Grinnell      George Fox      Laverne      Eureka      Oshkosh   
   Central            Bethel      Lake Forest      Whitworth      Occidental      Minn-Morris      Platteville   
   Wartburg            St. Thomas      IC      Linfield      Cal Lutheran      SSC      Whitewater   
               Gustavus Adolphus      Cornell                  Westminster         
                     Knox                  Northwestern         
                     Monmouth                           
                     St. Norbert                           



   ASC      CC      ODAC      PAC      SAA      SCAC      USAC   
   LC*      McDaniel      Randolph-Macon      Grove City      Sewanee      Southwestern*      Averett   
   Bellhaven*      Juniata      Catholic      Thiel      Millsaps      Austin*      Ferrum   
   HPU*      Dickinson      E&H      Waynesburg      Hendrix      TLU*      NCWC   
   SRSU*      Ursinus      Bridgewater      CMU      Rhodes      Trinity*      LaGrange   
   McMurry*      Susquehenna      H-SC      Bethany      WashU            Greensboro   
   ETBU*      Muhlenberg      W&L      St. Vincent      B-SC            Huntingdon   
   UMHB*      Moravian      Shenandoah      Westminster      Centre            Methodist   
   H-SU*      Gettysburg      Guilford      Geneva      Berry            Maryville   
         F&M            CWRU      Chicago               
         Johns Hopkins            Thomas More                     
                     W&J                     



   ECFC      Empire 8      IND      LL      MAC      MASCAC      NEFC      NJAC   
   Mount Ida      Buffalo St.      Alfred St.*      Union      Misericordia      Worcester State      Curry      So Virginia   
   Anna Maria      Hartwick            St. Lawrence      Wilkes      Plymouth State      Nichols      TCNJ   
   Norwich      SJF            RPI      Leb Valley      Westfield State      Maine Maritime      Montclair St.   
   Gallaudet      Utica            USMMA      Lycoming      Bridgewater St.      Salve Regina      Salisbury   
   Husson      Morrisville St.            Springfield      King's      Western Conn.      MIT      WPU   
   Castleton      Brockport St.            WPI      FDU-F      Mass-Dartmouth      Endicott      CNU   
   Becker      Alfred            Hobart      Widener      Mass-Maritime      Coast Guard      Frostburg St.   
   SUNY-MC      Ithaca            Rochester      Del Valley      Framingham St.      Western NE      Rowan   
         Cortland St.                  Albright      Fitchburg State            Kean   
                           Stevenson                  Wesley   
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wally_wabash

This week's eliminations:
WashU
Centre
Birmingham-Southern
Methodist
Hartwick
St. John Fisher
Merchant Marine
Worcester Poly
FDU-Florham
William Patterson
Christopher Newport

And then there's Ohio Northern who we moved back into the "still alive" group.  After further review, ONU is a team that can finish 8-2 and possibly have two wins over RROs (Utica, JCU) and that's plenty to be still in play.  My bad on knocking ONU last week.  That was hasty. 

All told we've still got 72 teams in play for those 7 at-large bids.  The regional breakdown is:
North - 13
West - 15
South - 23
East 21
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Ralph Turner

McMurry is Re-classifying and Belhaven is Provisional.  They are not eligible.  Thanks.

wally_wabash

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 07, 2015, 08:35:12 PM
McMurry is Re-classifying and Belhaven is Provisional.  They are not eligible.  Thanks.

Thanks for the clarification, Ralph.  I presume Finlandia is also not eligible as long as we're tidying up those loose ends.  Either way, those teams aren't playing the postseason so for this exercise, we're all good. 
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Quote from: wally_wabash on October 07, 2015, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 07, 2015, 08:35:12 PM
McMurry is Re-classifying and Belhaven is Provisional.  They are not eligible.  Thanks.

Thanks for the clarification, Ralph.  I presume Finlandia is also not eligible as long as we're tidying up those loose ends.  Either way, those teams aren't playing the postseason so for this exercise, we're all good.
Finlandia isn't reclassifying... they're already a full fledged D3 school so I think they should be eligible. We had this discussion over on the basketball boards I believe last year.
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on October 07, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 07, 2015, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 07, 2015, 08:35:12 PM
McMurry is Re-classifying and Belhaven is Provisional.  They are not eligible.  Thanks.

Thanks for the clarification, Ralph.  I presume Finlandia is also not eligible as long as we're tidying up those loose ends.  Either way, those teams aren't playing the postseason so for this exercise, we're all good.
Finlandia isn't reclassifying... they're already a full fledged D3 school so I think they should be eligible. We had this discussion over on the basketball boards I believe last year.

Yep.  And (although I doubt it had any effect) I'm proud of my efforts to get them reclassified as West Region.  They have numerous West region opponents far closer than their nearest Central (or North or Great Lakes, depending on sport) opponent, Alma, who is WAY over 300 miles (including the Mackinac Bridge, which can be very treacherous during basketball season).  And a HUGE salute to Suomi College (Finlandia, for those who refuse to acknowledge history :o - all stamp collectors should be aware that Suomi is Finnish for Finland) for winning in only the fifth game of their history.

wally_wabash

Some key week 6 games in the at-large universe to keep an eye on:

Wittenberg @ DePauw
Ohio Northern @ Mount Union
UW-Whitewater @ UW-Oshkosh
UW-Stevens Point @ UW-Platteville
Berry @ Chicago
Shenandoah @ Guilford
Bridgewater @ Emory & Henry
Washington & Lee @ Hampden-Sydney
Rhodes @ WashU
TLU @ ETBU
Rowan @ Salisbury
Hobart @ Springfield
Stevenson @ Delaware Valley
And the dc1 West Coast Specialâ„¢: Pacific @ Linfield  :)
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desertcat1

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2015, 09:33:24 AM
Some key week 6 games in the at-large universe to keep an eye on:

Wittenberg @ DePauw
Ohio Northern @ Mount Union
UW-Whitewater @ UW-Oshkosh
UW-Stevens Point @ UW-Platteville
Berry @ Chicago
Shenandoah @ Guilford
Bridgewater @ Emory & Henry
Washington & Lee @ Hampden-Sydney
Rhodes @ WashU
TLU @ ETBU
Rowan @ Salisbury
Hobart @ Springfield
Stevenson @ Delaware Valley
And the dc1 West Coast Specialâ„¢: Pacific @ Linfield  :)

u'da   man wally, :)

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Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2015, 09:33:24 AM
Some key week 6 games in the at-large universe to keep an eye on:

Wittenberg @ DePauw
Ohio Northern @ Mount Union
UW-Whitewater @ UW-Oshkosh  but not UWW, yet.
UW-Stevens Point @ UW-Platteville
Berry @ Chicago  not yet
Shenandoah @ Guilford
Bridgewater @ Emory & Henry
Washington & Lee @ Hampden-Sydney  (Wow!)
Rhodes @ WashU
TLU @ ETBU
Rowan @ Salisbury  not yet
Hobart @ Springfield
Stevenson @ Delaware Valley
And the dc1 West Coast Specialâ„¢: Pacific @ Linfield  :)

So far....
(+1 Wally)

wally_wabash

Some other important results from Saturday:
Carthage 31, Elmhurst 17
Buffalo State 29, Cortland State 21
Springfield 35, Hobart 13
Southwestern 35, Austin 28
NC Wesleyan 24, Maryville 7 (!!)
SJF 34, Morrisville St. 29
Utica 22, Brockport St. 19
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Schwami on September 30, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
Excellent work!

One suggestion: consider placing an asterisk by the teams that can also get in through Pool B.  If I am reading the handbook correctly, this would be the three independents (Finlandia, Maranatha, and Alfred State), and the teams in the ASC and SCAC.  Currently there are 5 teams remaining out of this Pool B bunch (in no particular order):

1. UMHB
2. H-SC
3. Austin
4. TLU
5. Trinity
Can you share the URL to the 2015 D-3 Football Handbook?

Thanks.

wally_wabash

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Schwami on September 30, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
Excellent work!

One suggestion: consider placing an asterisk by the teams that can also get in through Pool B.  If I am reading the handbook correctly, this would be the three independents (Finlandia, Maranatha, and Alfred State), and the teams in the ASC and SCAC.  Currently there are 5 teams remaining out of this Pool B bunch (in no particular order):

1. UMHB
2. H-SC
3. Austin
4. TLU
5. Trinity
Can you share the URL to the 2015 D-3 Football Handbook?

Thanks.

Ralph-

Here you go.  
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wally_wabash

Absolutely!  I'll be pushing an update to the Eliminator table this evening. 
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