Pool C -- 2015

[Tekken]

Hardin Simmons just lost to East Texas Baptist who is now in the drivers seat in the conference (but has 2 losses and probably not a strong pool B/C candidate) as they head to MHB next week---discuss

its asc circa 2003 with no AQ

Right--hypothetically, ETBU could win the conference and not make the playoffs while a team they beat (it would be HSU) could get in

does mcm loss count as a d3 opponent? If etbu beats umhb, etbu would be 2-1 vs rro with only d3 loss to rro tlu. Would they get bypassed by either hsu or umhb who would both be 1-2 vs rro and have h2h losses vs etbu?

[Toby Taff]

Hardin Simmons just lost to East Texas Baptist who is now in the drivers seat in the conference (but has 2 losses and probably not a strong pool B/C candidate) as they head to MHB next week---discuss

its asc circa 2003 with no AQ

Right--hypothetically, ETBU could win the conference and not make the playoffs while a team they beat (it would be HSU) could get in

my guess is that umhb crushes ETBU next week. its homecoming and there's too much on the line. that will leave a 3way tie for conference ( unless hsu craps the bed next week).. a 3 loss ETBU isn't in anyone's playoff picture, but I wonder what other fallout there will be.

Hardin Simmons just lost to East Texas Baptist who is now in the drivers seat in the conference (but has 2 losses and probably not a strong pool B/C candidate) as they head to MHB next week---discuss

its asc circa 2003 with no AQ

Right--hypothetically, ETBU could win the conference and not make the playoffs while a team they beat (it would be HSU) could get in

does mcm loss count as a d3 opponent? If not etbu would be 2-1 vs rro with only d3 loss to rro tlu. Would they get bypassed by either hsu or umhb who would both be 1-2 vs rro and have h2h losses vs etbu?

McM does not count

[RLW]

This is going to be interesting this week. I can't wait for Wally posts this week.

[wesleydad]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

[MonroviaCat]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

Maybe...but man Pool C is getting crowded with a lot of traditionally good teams...the East is certainly a big mess.

[thewaterboy]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

Maybe...but man Pool C is getting crowded with a lot of traditionally good teams...the East is certainly a big mess.

I am wondering who will get in first: Wesley or MHB.

[wesleydad]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

Maybe...but man Pool C is getting crowded with a lot of traditionally good teams...the East is certainly a big mess.

I am wondering who will get in first: Wesley or MHB.

MHB may be in trouble.  ETBU is not really being considered for a pool B or C.  If they beat MHB than MHB is out.  If the Pool B comes down to HSU and MHB it would figure to go to HSU since they won the H2H.  MHB has a poor SOS but may have a good RRO record with a win if ETBU remains ranked after losing to MHB.  They both may be on the table at the same time.  After UWW goes in they both look good, but you never know.

[MonroviaCat]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

Maybe...but man Pool C is getting crowded with a lot of traditionally good teams...the East is certainly a big mess.

I am wondering who will get in first: Wesley or MHB.

MHB may be in trouble.  ETBU is not really being considered for a pool B or C.  If they beat MHB than MHB is out.  If the Pool B comes down to HSU and MHB it would figure to go to HSU since they won the H2H.  MHB has a poor SOS but may have a good RRO record with a win if ETBU remains ranked after losing to MHB.  They both may be on the table at the same time.  After UWW goes in they both look good, but you never know.

they were not ranked this week--their win today could help them get ranked but then you have a mess of a time ranking--do you put them above HSU since they beat them...and then do you put them above MHB since HSU beat them...it's gonna get pretty interesting to see what the south RR's look like.

[jknezek]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

Maybe...but man Pool C is getting crowded with a lot of traditionally good teams...the East is certainly a big mess.

I am wondering who will get in first: Wesley or MHB.

MHB may be in trouble.  ETBU is not really being considered for a pool B or C.  If they beat MHB than MHB is out.  If the Pool B comes down to HSU and MHB it would figure to go to HSU since they won the H2H.  MHB has a poor SOS but may have a good RRO record with a win if ETBU remains ranked after losing to MHB.  They both may be on the table at the same time.  After UWW goes in they both look good, but you never know.

they were not ranked this week--their win today could help them get ranked but then you have a mess of a time ranking--do you put them above HSU since they beat them...and then do you put them above MHB since HSU beat them...it's gonna get pretty interesting to see what the south RR's look like.

I just played this game doing my SRFP for the week. Took some mental gymnastics.

[wally_wabash]

As Tyler Durden once said: I look around, I look around, I see a lot of new faces.  Going to be a fun week in this forum. 

Early lean on the ASC situation is that HSU should still be the Pool B bid, but that needs more investigating. Ultimately the South RAC will tell us how that will play itself out.

East- I can't see a good reason for Albright to not be ranked ahead of Wesley.  The common opponent is really problematic.  But Albright is now looking like Pool A, so really no worry to Wesley. They should be first in line from their region.

[MonroviaCat]

As Tyler Durden once said: I look around, I look around, I see a lot of new faces.  Going to be a fun week in this forum. 

Early lean on the ASC situation is that HSU should still be the Pool B bid, but that needs more investigating. Ultimately the South RAC will tell us how that will play itself out.

East- I can't see a good reason for Albright to not be ranked ahead of Wesley.  The common opponent is really problematic.  But Albright is now looking like Pool A, so really no worry to Wesley. They should be first in line from their region.

I guess the real question will be: With Wesley losing, even if they are first on the table--how do they stack up against the other Region's ranked teams (like the long line of West Region teams that have 1 loss, similar SOS, etc.)....

[wally_wabash]

We'll run through it on Wednesday, but if Wesley is first in line I can't imagine they will sit there Unselected for six rounds.  Where you are in your regional queue is like 75% of the game.

[jknezek]

Interesting thought but Huntingdon winning the AQ from the USASAC creates a potential island problem with Berry losing today. Only Berry, Hendrix, or Centre of the likely field of 32 is within 500 miles. TMC is just over 520. Centre plays at Berry this week, Hendrix is at Sewanee. The outcome of those games could set up a nasty tie break. But if Centre or Berry make the field, they pretty much have to be Huntingdon's opponent. If Hendrix makes the field, they are within 500 miles of Huntingdon, UMHB or ETBU, but not H-SU.

Oddly enough ETBU is 502 miles, by TES, from Huntingdon.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Wesley drops into the Pool C discussion unless Salisbury loses to Frostburg next week.  With the Del Val loss giving Albright the MAC title with a win next week I think that Wesley will be still ranked #1 in the regional Rankings and the first team up for the East.  I think Salisbury moves into the top 10 and possibly NCC moves into the North top 10 with the IWU loss.  That would make Wesley 1-1 RRO and an decent SOS.  Does that put them in pretty good shape to get a Pool C bid?

I think NCC will finish in the RR but not because of the IWU loss.  IWU will fall, but still be ranked.

[USee]

I have to say I am sooooo glad that I can watch  the Pool C process from an AQ seat this year. It's going to be a brutal 8 days for some fans.