Pool C -- 2015

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Quote from: USee on November 07, 2015, 10:06:57 PM
I have to say I am sooooo glad that I can watch  the Pool C process from an AQ seat this year. It's going to be a brutal 8 days for some fans.

Ditto that thought here from where TMC sits.
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Quote from: USee on November 07, 2015, 10:06:57 PM
I have to say I am sooooo glad that I can watch  the Pool C process from an AQ seat this year. It's going to be a brutal 8 days for some fans.

Oh yea, things sure got interesting after Saturday's games. As a UWW fan, I'm not sweating it that much. I would think St. John's and UWW should be locks.

I'm really interested in seeing if UWP gets in now.

jknezek

Quite happy W&L left no doubt. In the ODAC boards I put up a list of schools clinched/near clinched within 500 miles of W&L. Was surprised how few there were. Hoping the Generals can win out and maybe even get their first ever post season home game. We will see.

wally_wabash

Put a bow on our Week 10 games here, winners bolded:

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 05, 2015, 10:09:24 AM
Some games to keep an eye on in Week 10, starred teams here can clinch Pool A bids with a win:

Salisbury @ *Wesley
*Wheaton @ Illinois Wesleyan
*Thomas More @ *Case Western Reserve
Hampden-Sydney @ Guilford
Utica @ Alfred
St. John's @ Bethel
Albright @ Stevenson
Hardin-Simmons @ East Texas Baptist

And some other games where we may see automatic bids clinched:
F&M @ *Johns Hopkins
*Husson @ *Norwich
Defiance @ *Franklin
*Dubuque @ Coe
*St. Lawrence @ Hobart
*Framingham State @ Bridgewater State
Carleton @ *St. Thomas
Puget Sound @ *Linfield (you thought I wouldn't get it in there, but here it is...your dc1 West Coast Specialâ„¢)
Catholic @ *Washington & Lee
*Berry @ Birmingham-Southern
*La Verne @ Pomona-Pitzer
Maryville @ *Huntingdon
*UW-Oshkosh @ UW-La Crosse

And some other results worth noting:
Chicago @ Carnegie Mellon
Delaware Valley @ Lycoming
Rowan @ Kean
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art76

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 09, 2015, 10:34:21 AM
Quote from: USee on November 07, 2015, 10:06:57 PM
I have to say I am sooooo glad that I can watch  the Pool C process from an AQ seat this year. It's going to be a brutal 8 days for some fans.

Oh yea, things sure got interesting after Saturday's games. As a UWW fan, I'm not sweating it that much. I would think St. John's and UWW should be locks.

I'm really interested in seeing if UWP gets in now.

It's a wild, wild West this year, even more so than in the recent past. Having listened to the podcast already, I'm tracking with Pat when he wonders if the North will even get an at-large team in Pool C with the results this past weekend. I can see the selection committee pushing UMU into the "East" bracket to make room for St. John's seeded third, Oshkosh seeded second and Wheaton seeded first in the "North" bracket. That leaves St. Thomas as the one seed in the "West" bracket with Whitewater number 2 and flying LaVerne out to play either of them. Linfield can then play Whitworth and either be paired in the "West" bracket or in the "South" bracket - depending on how the committee seeds/places the remaining teams.
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: art76 on November 09, 2015, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 09, 2015, 10:34:21 AM
Quote from: USee on November 07, 2015, 10:06:57 PM
I have to say I am sooooo glad that I can watch  the Pool C process from an AQ seat this year. It's going to be a brutal 8 days for some fans.

Oh yea, things sure got interesting after Saturday's games. As a UWW fan, I'm not sweating it that much. I would think St. John's and UWW should be locks.

I'm really interested in seeing if UWP gets in now.

It's a wild, wild West this year, even more so than in the recent past. Having listened to the podcast already, I'm tracking with Pat when he wonders if the North will even get an at-large team in Pool C with the results this past weekend. I can see the selection committee pushing UMU into the "East" bracket to make room for St. John's seeded third, Oshkosh seeded second and Wheaton seeded first in the "North" bracket. That leaves St. Thomas as the one seed in the "West" bracket with Whitewater number 2 and flying LaVerne out to play either of them. Linfield can then play Whitworth and either be paired in the "West" bracket or in the "South" bracket - depending on how the committee seeds/places the remaining teams.

I agree that UMU almost has to be #1 in the East now. Not sure I would put UWW as the #2 if Linfield and St. Thomas are with them in the West. I guess putting Linfield in the South seems silly to me...then again I'm not sure if there's a bonafide #1 in the South right now. Johns Hopkins? H-S? Wesley? Thomas More?

wally_wabash

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 09, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
I agree that UMU almost has to be #1 in the East now.

NOOOOOO. 

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jknezek

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 09, 2015, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 09, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
I agree that UMU almost has to be #1 in the East now.

NOOOOOO. 



Pretty sure UMU will be the top seed in A bracket that will contain north, east and south teams. Maybe even a team from the West. Is that the same thing?

wally_wabash

If you think it makes sense to call a group of 8 teams that consist of teams from three or even all four regions the East region, then sure.  The NCAA doesn't think that makes sense and they don't name the bracket regions that way. 
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art76

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 09, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
I agree that UMU almost has to be #1 in the East now. Not sure I would put UWW as the #2 if Linfield and St. Thomas are with them in the West. I guess putting Linfield in the South seems silly to me...then again I'm not sure if there's a bonafide #1 in the South right now. Johns Hopkins? H-S? Wesley? Thomas More?

I was trying to keep the WIAC and MIAC teams apart until quarter finals.
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art76

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 09, 2015, 11:36:28 AM
If you think it makes sense to call a group of 8 teams that consist of teams from three or even all four regions the East region, then sure.  The NCAA doesn't think that makes sense and they don't name the bracket regions that way.

What Wally said: Others will probably explain it better, but it comes down to mileage (read money) between teams. While there may be teams that are forced to fly because of where they are in the country, we have seen multiple Region teams in the same bracket. Naming them North, South, East and West is a matter of convention -  not necessarily an accurate description.
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Quote from: wally_wabash on November 09, 2015, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 09, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
I agree that UMU almost has to be #1 in the East now.

NOOOOOO. 



Applause.

I feel like I've said this a dozen different places by now.  There are no "Regions" in the playoff brackets.  The RR's are still used for the selection process, but that does not mean there is an East, North, South, and West region.  I wish I could find wally's post from last year, but IIRC none of the 8-team quadrants of the bracket had more than five teams from the same region, and at least one (if not two or three) had teams from three different "regions" represented.

The Pool C's are picked.  The four top seeds are identified.  Bracket building proceeds from there.
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emma17

^^
I don't think it's worth the headache to bang your head against the wall if people happen to call the regions by geographic names. 
It's likely 02 gets it, but refers the regions geographically.  And, if 50% or more teams that make up a bracket are from the same geographic region, I see no problem identifying it by the neighborhood from which the majority of teams reside.

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I think Mount Union will be the easternmost No. 1 seed.
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