2015 POOL C

[lastguyoffthebench]

Possibly 4 bid league then... Crazier things have happened

[Shooter McGavin]

Tufts is deserving of an At-Large. Would be harsh for the committee to leave them out imo.

Never once said Tufts wasn't "deserving." I said they would be stealing a bid from a "more deserving" team. I know language can be hard sometimes.

So a team with 7 blemishes, not double digit wins, 4-3-3 (mediocre) in their last 10 games, 3-3-2 vs ranked, a very good SOS above .600, and didn't even make conference semifinals should get into the NCAA tournament? If the name "Tufts" was removed from this and you are comparing other teams yeah they would get picked over some but when you add the name back to it they sky rocket to the top. If that's the case then why even play? It's just like other people saying RPI should get a pool C bid...they didn't even make their conference playoffs!!! What makes you think they deserve to be an NCAA tournament team? They finished 7th out of 9 teams in their conference........7th.......it's not like they finished 5th and missed the top 4 on a tie breaker or if the league has 9 teams but only 4 get in unlike others who have a 4/5 play in game...still wouldn't have mattered! They finished 7th!!!!! The bias is ridiculous with some of these teams...Rochester still has a chance? Really? A 7 win team at best has a chance to make the tournament? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? I have watched UR and I thought they would start winning and make the tournament...they are a good team...but they are not NCAA worthy this year...sorry but they aren't.

Newark and Camden are other examples...each have 7 losses and people are still considering them? Seriously? Newark finished the year on a 3 game losing streak and lost games by scores of 7-1 and 6-0 this year...yeah they would be a great team to invite to the dance....Camden is 4-6-0 in their last 10 games...that's great form...ya know losing more games than winning...but we should consider them for the tournament though.

Get a grip on reality and look at the teams who deserve to be in the field this year based on their body of work...not getting in because they were the national runner-up 2 years ago.

Overall I do believe Tufts gets in...and I think you will see 3 teams get snubbed that probably deserve it more than Tufts...doesn't mean Tufts isn't deserving and doesn't mean they can't make a run at back to back titles, but it also doesn't mean that they deserved to get in over other more deserving teams. We will know more after the conference playoffs wrap up. A lot will hinder on those outcomes.

[Mr.Right]

Back to back titles is also a pipe dream for this Tufts team. Sweet 16 would be a solid goal for now if they were to get in and I would expect them to most likely exit there

[lastguyoffthebench]

You are contradicting yourself... Saying RPI shouldn't get in Bc they missed conference playoffs, BUTTT then say it should be based on body of work.   In that case, RPI is certainly deserving of consideration.

Newark is cooked.

Teams like Salisbury or CNU should also be cooked.  Salisbury will possibly steal a bid if they fail to win CAC


Teams that play strong schedules should be rewarded, 6 blemishes should be the cutoff. 7 with an incredibly high SOS

[blooter442]

Rochester still has a chance? Really? A 7 win team at best has a chance to make the tournament? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? I have watched UR and I thought they would start winning and make the tournament...they are a good team...but they are not NCAA worthy this year...sorry but they aren't.

People - including myself - were saying this a few weeks back, but Rochester is done. The loss to Brandeis pretty much sealed their fate. They haven't been ranked in any of the RRs so far, in all likelihood won't be, and are 1-2-4 against ranked opponents. Even if they win against Emory on Saturday, a 7-4-5 record and their poor RvR won't offset their SOS. Had they managed to get a win Sunday and then won at Emory, they might have had a sliiiiiiiight chance, but with where they are I'd say they have no chance.

[lastguyoffthebench]

Rutgers-Camden is 5-6 in last 11 games.    8 of those teams were regionally ranked, so what's your point?

They haven't been playing great, but some teams haven't played 8 regionally ranked opponents over 2 seasons, let alone over 11 game span.   Stockton makes it 9 of 12 games and if win 10 of 13 game run vs regionally ranked opponent (MSU or Rowan).

AQ or bust for Camden, but won't really shock me if they sneak in as a last school.

[Shooter McGavin]

You are contradicting yourself... Saying RPI shouldn't get in Bc they missed conference playoffs, BUTTT then say it should be based on body of work.   In that case, RPI is certainly deserving of consideration.

Newark is cooked.

Teams like Salisbury or CNU should also be cooked.  Salisbury will possibly steal a bid if they fail to win CAC


Teams that play strong schedules should be rewarded, 6 blemishes should be the cutoff. 7 with an incredibly high SOS

I did not contradict myself. It should be body of work...and RPI's is not good enough...and I also firmly believe that if you don't make your conference playoffs you do not deserve to make the NCAA tournament therefore RPI is out on both of them...you can argue that their resume is good enough...that's fine, but when you finish 7th in a 9 team league how do you possibly think they deserve to get in the NCAA tournament? You're talking about what's suppose to be the best 61 teams(for the most part) and you want to give a team that finished 7th in their league of 9 one of the precious 18 bids? Please tell me you realize how silly this sounds??

[lastguyoffthebench]

Because they took care of business with a strong out of conference schedule.  On top of that LL is not a weak conference...

No doubt in my mind RPI is in, especially if SLU wins the AQ.   They will sweat selection day if SLU doesn't win AQ, because it's likely not a 3 bid league

[blooter442]

No doubt in my mind RPI is in, especially if SLU wins the AQ.   They will sweat selection day if SLU doesn't win AQ, because it's likely not a 3 bid league

Who would the second bid go to? Hobart? I ask genuinely because I literally have no idea, and Hobart has been an excellent LL side this year. That said, I don't follow the LL closely, so I could very well have missed something.

[lastguyoffthebench]

RPI is 40th overall is Massey Ratings, 36th in Hero Sports

[lastguyoffthebench]

If Hobart beats Skidmore, they have a strong chance for Pool C, just depends if they move into secret rankings

[Mr.Right]

I also am willing to bet RPI is out. I am also willing to bet SUNYAC is not getting 3 Pool C's. To many upsets will happen this weekend for either of these teams like Cortland St and RPI to make it.

[Flying Weasel]

The NCAA selection committee has no basis to judge a team on their conference record or standing. Nothing in the prescribed criteria allows them to make a distinction between conference and non-conference games/results. So I'm with LGOTB in the sense that RPI is to be judged on their overall body of work and conferenc finish isn't to factor in.  Doesn't mean I agree with that, but just saying that's the way it should be according to the Pre-Championships Manual

RPI was at #4 in the region last week when they were already looking likely to miss the Liberty payoffs.  If they somehow hold onto the #4 spot (or even only drop to the #5 spot) they will have a real chance at a Pool C berth.  But let's see where they are ranked tomorrow and then go from there.

A team getting selected who missed their conference tournament could be a first as I'm not remembering any instance of that.  I presonaly think there's something wrong with a 7th place team getting into the NCAA tournament, but understand that doesn't factor in (or at least isn't supposed to officially).

[Brother Flounder]

Better chance is RPI out and Tufts in....

[Shooter McGavin]

I also am willing to bet RPI is out. I am also willing to bet SUNYAC is not getting 3 Pool C's. To many upsets will happen this weekend for either of these teams like Cortland St and RPI to make it.

Thank you Mr.Right.