2015 POOL C

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Mr.Right

Not to mention why not book Loras to Kansas City now. Very easy bracket

blooter442

Amherst got the bye. Didn't I call it?! (I said that Brandeis had a good shot for it, but still thought Amherst would in the back of my mind.)

Personally, I'm happy that Brandeis doesn't have to see any of Babson, MIT, or Tufts before the Final Four. A potential matchup with Amherst is perhaps inevitable, but those three - even MIT, who I've been critical of - are dangerous, and have given the Judges fits this year, regardless of the final result. That said, Thomas (ME) has the two legit freshmen in Adam LaBrie and DJ Nicholas, and NAC POY Tre Ming, so Brandeis won't take them lightly. And the other side of that pod is Stevens and RPI, who are both legit programs and will get new life with NCAA bids. Still, not being set up against Babson, MIT, or Tufts was a relief.

igotthisfeeling

Absolutely shocking for Etown to not get in...2 losses all year - 1 @ F&M and other in conference final after running the table all year...yet they take other teams who were worse.

Ji Sung Park the Bus

Quote from: igotthisfeeling on November 09, 2015, 02:01:34 PM
Absolutely shocking for Etown to not get in...2 losses all year - 1 @ F&M and other in conference final after running the table all year...yet they take other teams who were worse.

Not that shocking they need to play a better OOC schedule to make up for their weak conference.

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Quote from: igotthisfeeling on November 09, 2015, 02:01:34 PM
Absolutely shocking for Etown to not get in...2 losses all year - 1 @ F&M and other in conference final after running the table all year...yet they take other teams who were worse.

I know you are a Bluejay supporter and I feel for you as I would have loved to see as many teams from our region make it as possible...but the biggest snub for me was RPI getting in over Brockport...I am flabbergasted by this...and Midd not getting in? Wow.

nw_ds

Quote from: blooter442 on November 09, 2015, 02:01:23 PM
Amherst got the bye. Didn't I call it?! (I said that Brandeis had a good shot for it, but still thought Amherst would in the back of my mind.)

Personally, I'm happy that Brandeis doesn't have to see any of Babson, MIT, or Tufts before the Final Four. A potential matchup with Amherst is perhaps inevitable, but those three - even MIT, who I've been critical of - are dangerous, and have given the Judges fits this year, regardless of the final result. That said, Thomas (ME) has the two legit freshmen in Adam LaBrie and DJ Nicholas, and NAC POY Tre Ming, so Brandeis won't take them lightly. And the other side of that pod is Stevens and RPI, who are both legit programs and will get new life with NCAA bids. Still, not being set up against Babson, MIT, or Tufts was a relief.

That may be true, but if we're going to look ahead I'd rather see a difficult matchup like one of those few teams in the second round then what looks to be a potential Sweet 16 clash with Trinity. Long way to go obviously and we will see how it all breaks down but there's an argument to be made that 3 of the top 5 or so teams in the country are in that quadrant. Whoever emerges will have to earn it that's for sure.



PaulNewman

Loras, Amherst and Oneonta (if they can get by Camden) on paper have routine roads to Elite 8.

Golden_Fan

shocked that both plattsburgh and rpi got in over brockport. Brockport owned the head to head vs plattsburgh and was ranked higher than rpi

igotthisfeeling

Unfortunately for them - some teams had down years that werent expected - nor could have been predicted when making the schedule - plus can only schedule games against people who can make their schedule work...but still played F&M, dickinson, Messiah and went 2-1 in those games. Would love to know the committees reasoning for not taking them - had to be another reason besides SOS...

Flying Weasel

What I don't get about the Midd-Tufts thing is why wasn't Tufts ahead of Middlebury in the third published rankings if the committee liked the Tufts' SoS and RvR more than Middlebury's win pct.?  Hardly anything changed on the resumes in the final week.  Tufts didn't play, Middlebury tied Wesleyan.  I can see the argument for Tufts over Middlebury based on the criteria and how we know they esp. like SoS and wins vs. ranked teams, but then why wasn't that already reflected in the third rankings.

lastguyoffthebench

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SLU Gets their wish with no NESCAC and punished with Haverford.   Instant classic in the making.    Crap draw for both

PaulNewman

So Montclair, Tufts, Kenyon, F&M, OWU, Calvin all in same bracket, and that's not counting TMC, CMU, Chicago, MSOE...

CovensCorner

Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 09, 2015, 02:17:36 PM
What I don't get about the Midd-Tufts thing is why wasn't Tufts ahead of Middlebury in the third published rankings if the committee liked the Tufts' SoS and RvR more than Middlebury's win pct.?  Hardly anything changed on the resumes in the final week.  Tufts didn't play, Middlebury tied Wesleyan.  I can see the argument for Tufts over Middlebury based on the criteria and how we know they esp. like SoS and wins vs. ranked teams, but then why wasn't that already reflected in the third rankings.

Does this not bring back the question of, is there favor towards the reigning champion to defend their title?

blooter442

Quote from: nw_ds on November 09, 2015, 02:12:15 PM
That may be true, but if we're going to look ahead I'd rather see a difficult matchup like one of those few teams in the second round then what looks to be a potential Sweet 16 clash with Trinity. Long way to go obviously and we will see how it all breaks down but there's an argument to be made that 3 of the top 5 or so teams in the country are in that quadrant. Whoever emerges will have to earn it that's for sure.

Point taken, but with Trinity potentially having to come to MA for that one, could be advantage to the New England side. Trinity did hit Brandeis for two quick ones at the beginning of the season, but that was at home and also Brandeis has become much more defensively stout since then (as are NCAA contests in general.) Would be an exciting matchup, that's for sure.

Mr.Right

Midd was kind of like Stockton in the NJAC. Good record but when you really look into their wins they did not beat the top 4 of their own conference. Committee must have not counted Midd's 5 out of conference wins so really 8-2-2. Beating Colby , Bates. 6-2-2. Beating a down Williams and Wesleyan. 4-2-1. Beating a weak Trinity twice 2-2-1. So 2-2-1. THAT IS WHY