SOS

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 04:03:14 PM

1. Williams .637
2. Tufts .623
3. Brandeis .619
4. Wesleyan .618
5. Rochester .609
6. Babson .604
7. Loras .602
8. Centre .601
9. Chicago .599
10. Camden .597

blooter442 · November 04, 2015, 04:20:16 PM

Eight schools over .600 seems a bit low. I would imagine that its due to the amount of parity nationwide, thus decreasing OWP and OOWP, but that's just a guess. I'd be curious to see how many schools per year, historically speaking, have ended the third RR with .600 or better. I would guess 10-15.

Brother Flounder · November 04, 2015, 04:40:12 PM

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 04:03:14 PM

1. Williams .637
2. Tufts .623
3. Brandeis .619
4. Wesleyan .618
5. Rochester .609
6. Babson .604
7. Loras .602
8. Centre .601
9. Chicago .599
10. Camden .597

That SOS just may propel the Jumbos into the tourney...... Kudos to all those teams playing tough schedules!

blooter442 · November 04, 2015, 04:47:50 PM

Quote from: Brother Flounder on November 04, 2015, 04:40:12 PM
That SOS just may propel the Jumbos into the tourney...... Kudos to all those teams playing tough schedules!

I think Tufts is safe (unless crazy upsets galore this weekend.) They're fifth in NE, they were likely helped by Brandeis - a New England team who has traditionally needed an at-large to get in - getting the AQ for the UAA, and assuming that MIT and Middlebury win this weekend they'll be fine even with Amherst getting a Pool C.

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 04:49:05 PM

The Jumbos are 4-3-1 RvR. I've thought they've been safe all along...

Teams that play cupcakes all year shouldn't get dessert, albeit the NCAA Tournament.

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 04:51:40 PM

With so much parity and so many blemishes, I think .550 is probably a safe starting point for Pool Cs. Granted, there may be some lucky lotto winners for financial/geographical reasons. I do not think the West is really deserving of more than 1 Pool C bid, unless a big program loses.

blooter442 · November 04, 2015, 04:56:04 PM

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 04:51:40 PM

With so much parity and so many blemishes, I think .550 is probably a safe starting point for Pool Cs. Granted, there may be some lucky lotto winners for financial/geographical reasons. I do not think the West is really deserving of more than 1 Pool C bid, unless a big program loses.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think a safe starting point is most years versus this one?

Agree with your statement about the parity and blemishes - MIT is probably the only exception to that (.529), as they're third in NE and No. 17 in the NSCAA D3 poll, but I say they win the NEWMAC pretty easily and probably even host the first two rounds.

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 04:59:49 PM

I think .580 is the magic number. Mr.Right would know better...

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 05:02:46 PM

From 2014 SOS Forum:

Chicago 646
Brandeis 638
North Central 630
Rochester 618
Babson 612
Haverford 611
Emory 605
Case Western 603
Wheaton (Ill.) 603
York (Pa.) 602
Swarthmore 602
Carthage 599

Mid-Atlantic Fan · November 04, 2015, 05:11:24 PM

Quote from: blooter442 on November 04, 2015, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 04:51:40 PM

With so much parity and so many blemishes, I think .550 is probably a safe starting point for Pool Cs. Granted, there may be some lucky lotto winners for financial/geographical reasons. I do not think the West is really deserving of more than 1 Pool C bid, unless a big program loses.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think a safe starting point is most years versus this one?

Agree with your statement about the parity and blemishes - MIT is probably the only exception to that (.529), as they're third in NE and No. 17 in the NSCAA D3 poll, but I say they win the NEWMAC pretty easily and probably even host the first two rounds.

Etown at .525 would be riding the bubble if they don't win the Landmark but same boat as MIT.

lastguyoffthebench · November 04, 2015, 05:27:09 PM

2014 Pool C (SOS) and 3rd Regional Ranking. SOS avg was .577; .581 with the outlier of Texas-Dallas .516 removed.

Central
4. North Park .597
6. Dominican .545

East
3. Cortland St .547
4. Rochester .627
5. Brockport St .568

Great Lakes
3. OWU .556

Mid-Atlantic
2. F&M .573
4. Dickinson .604

New England
1. Brandeis .633
2. Wheaton .597
3. Coast Guard .580
4. Amherst .587
6. Tufts .576

North
1. Loras .575

South Atlantic
1. Emory .603
2. Salisbury .556
3. Rut-Newark .557

West
3. Texas-Dallas .516

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 08:32:38 PM

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 04:03:14 PM

1. Williams .637
2. Tufts .623
3. Brandeis .619
4. Wesleyan .618
5. Rochester .609
6. Babson .604
7. Loras .602
8. Centre .601
9. Chicago .599
10. Camden .597

Well we knew in August both Tufts and Williams would have very good SOS. Tufts will benefit and Williams will not. That really drives me crazy as with that high a SOS they could have gotten in with 9 wins. Coulda , Woulda , F'd it.

Brother Flounder · November 04, 2015, 08:35:55 PM

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 04, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 04:03:14 PM

1. Williams .637
2. Tufts .623
3. Brandeis .619
4. Wesleyan .618
5. Rochester .609
6. Babson .604
7. Loras .602
8. Centre .601
9. Chicago .599
10. Camden .597

Well we knew in August both Tufts and Williams would have very good SOS. Tufts will benefit and Williams will not. That really drives me crazy as with that high a SOS they could have gotten in with 9 wins. Coulda , Woulda , F'd it.

Hang in there RIGHT!

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 08:54:12 PM

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 04:51:40 PM

With so much parity and so many blemishes, I think .550 is probably a safe starting point for Pool Cs. Granted, there may be some lucky lotto winners for financial/geographical reasons. I do not think the West is really deserving of more than 1 Pool C bid, unless a big program loses.

It has always been around .550. That is why I am not convinced even with 3 ranked wins Kenyon is a LOCK at .510 or ETOWN at .520. MIT at .540 is bare bones.

I mean .510 used to mean AQ or Bust. That Great Lakes region MIGHT want to glance over to the Central and North regions that have over inflated SOS and RvR but better resumes. I think Monday will be interesting

Mr.Right · November 04, 2015, 08:58:00 PM

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 04, 2015, 05:27:09 PM

2014 Pool C (SOS) and 3rd Regional Ranking. SOS avg was .577; .581 with the outlier of Texas-Dallas .516 removed.

Central
4. North Park .597
6. Dominican .545

East
3. Cortland St .547
4. Rochester .627
5. Brockport St .568

Great Lakes
3. OWU .556

Mid-Atlantic
2. F&M .573
4. Dickinson .604

New England
1. Brandeis .633
2. Wheaton .597
3. Coast Guard .580
4. Amherst .587
6. Tufts .576

North
1. Loras .575

South Atlantic
1. Emory .603
2. Salisbury .556
3. Rut-Newark .557

West
3. Texas-Dallas .516

This is by far the most interesting and informative item I have read all night. Seriously. Someone should have the task of re-posting this everytime one of these knuckleheads flies loose about RvR and SOS.