IIAC 2016

4samuy · November 12, 2016, 11:14:15 PM

I attended game tonight and saw a dubuqe team that gave a lot of space to Westminster attackers. I read that one of the reasons Dubuque received the bid was due to the head to head 1-0 victory. I guess I was a little surprised watching this game that loras wasn't able to score against Dubuque. Can you give any insight to the head to head match earlier in the year?

blue_jays · November 12, 2016, 11:55:18 PM

Quote from: 4samuy on November 12, 2016, 11:14:15 PM
I attended game tonight and saw a dubuqe team that gave a lot of space to Westminster attackers. I read that one of the reasons Dubuque received the bid was due to the head to head 1-0 victory. I guess I was a little surprised watching this game that loras wasn't able to score against Dubuque. Can you give any insight to the head to head match earlier in the year?

Tonight probably had something to do with Dubuque playing a man down for 80 minutes due to red card...

Puerco Espin · November 13, 2016, 12:13:16 PM

If memory serves me correctly, Loras pinged a couple shots off the post and missed some chances allowing Dubuque to hang around. Make no mistake, Gonzalo is a talented forward and is a lot to handle for a defense. He got free in the 88th(?) and buried his chance.

Puerco Espin · November 13, 2016, 12:19:35 PM

Last 5

ud: W, 3-2 at Central (5th team in IIAC, non-tournament team)
L, 3-1 vs. Wartburg (6th team in IIAC, non-tournament team)
L, 3-2 vs. UWP (non-tournament team)
W, 7-1 vs. Coe (1-17, 9th in IIAC)
L, 4-0 vs. Luther (2nd in IIAC, tournament team)

2-3-0 in last five ... 1-3-0 at home ... finished year 7-4-0 at home

Disappointing, but they were the better team in the NCAA's eyes. Maybe time for a visit to the optometrist.

dontshootthegoose · November 13, 2016, 12:26:55 PM

A visit to the optometrist

I just don't see an experienced Loras team, coached by Rothert, losing to a Westminster side. No offense to Westminster, but they wouldn't place even top 5 in the IIAC (a 3-0 loss to Simpson proves my point).

I understand Dubuque received a red, but I don't recall a Rothert coached side every receiving a red during national tournament play (and we all know there have been a lot of games for them).

Plus, I would have loved a Loras - Chicago match-up!!!!

KICKIN95 · November 14, 2016, 02:30:12 PM

Quote from: dontshootthegoose on November 13, 2016, 12:26:55 PM
A visit to the optometrist

I just don't see an experienced Loras team, coached by Rothert, losing to a Westminster side. No offense to Westminster, but they wouldn't place even top 5 in the IIAC (a 3-0 loss to Simpson proves my point).

I understand Dubuque received a red, but I don't recall a Rothert coached side every receiving a red during national tournament play (and we all know there have been a lot of games for them).

Plus, I would have loved a Loras - Chicago match-up!!!!

Loras and Chicago played a pre-season match this year and played to a 0-0 draw. Would have been a great match!

dontshootthegoose · November 16, 2016, 10:45:44 AM

Honestly, the committee may have seen a Loras-Chicago second round match up as being unfair to Chicago...

Loras always seems to get the better of Chicago, regardless of how great of a Chicago team that is.

I mean seriously, you have Chicago as undefeated and you give them a team that was just in the national title the year before and whose style of play really benefits against a possession style of Chicago.

blue_jays · November 17, 2016, 10:51:41 AM

Quote from: dontshootthegoose on November 16, 2016, 10:45:44 AM
Honestly, the committee may have seen a Loras-Chicago second round match up as being unfair to Chicago...

Loras always seems to get the better of Chicago, regardless of how great of a Chicago team that is.

I mean seriously, you have Chicago as undefeated and you give them a team that was just in the national title the year before and whose style of play really benefits against a possession style of Chicago.

Yup, you nailed it. I look forward to subscribing to your next newsletter

d3fan1 · November 20, 2016, 06:14:43 PM

I have been absent from this forum for awhile. I was disappointed to see Loras not get a bid. How have you been lately Kickin?

KICKIN95 · November 20, 2016, 10:18:34 PM

Been well d3fan. Very disappointed to see the committee pick UD over Loras and then for UD to dump their first match against a fairly weak Westminster side. Glad to see Luther get W in the tourney and for the Tommies to bust in to thw Final 4
Can't wait to go back next season when the Duhawks return to the finals!

Alfredeneumann · December 06, 2016, 03:03:53 PM

Wartburg looking for new coach

http://go-knights.net/news/2016/12/5/artist-steps-down-as-head-mens-soccer-coach.aspx?path=msoc

casualfan · December 14, 2016, 06:16:43 PM

Quote from: Alfredeneumann on December 06, 2016, 03:03:53 PM
Wartburg looking for new coach

http://go-knights.net/news/2016/12/5/artist-steps-down-as-head-mens-soccer-coach.aspx?path=msoc

Hmmm, any idea who could be a potential fit? They seem to have a good alumni base. Any in the coaching ranks?

PaulNewman · December 15, 2016, 08:12:26 PM

Could one of you Iowa folks provide some insight on the history of the Grinnell program? Why are the Pioneers not in the IIAC? Have they ever had any truly competitive teams? Does the program get no help from admissions? Very curious as to why this program is not at least on par with Carleton, Macalester, GAC, STU, etc and at least the mid-tier of the IIAC.

KICKIN95 · December 19, 2016, 05:06:12 PM

Quote from: PaulNewman on December 15, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
Could one of you Iowa folks provide some insight on the history of the Grinnell program? Why are the Pioneers not in the IIAC? Have they ever had any truly competitive teams? Does the program get no help from admissions? Very curious as to why this program is not at least on par with Carleton, Macalester, GAC, STU, etc and at least the mid-tier of the IIAC.

Grinnell has been pretty close to the bottom for many years. It may be due to their unique format for classes, extremely low application to acceptance rate (24.1%) and out of the box classroom participation processes. The college pushes their students to explore as many classes as possible and offer no entry level or remedial courses (no, college algebra, trig, or pre-calc). In other words you don't go to Grinnell to play sports, you go to get a unique and challenging education.

PaulNewman · December 19, 2016, 07:07:48 PM

Quote from: KICKIN95 on December 19, 2016, 05:06:12 PM
Quote from: PaulNewman on December 15, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
Could one of you Iowa folks provide some insight on the history of the Grinnell program? Why are the Pioneers not in the IIAC? Have they ever had any truly competitive teams? Does the program get no help from admissions? Very curious as to why this program is not at least on par with Carleton, Macalester, GAC, STU, etc and at least the mid-tier of the IIAC.

Grinnell has been pretty close to the bottom for many years. It may be due to their unique format for classes, extremely low application to acceptance rate (24.1%) and out of the box classroom participation processes. The college pushes their students to explore as many classes as possible and offer no entry level or remedial courses (no, college algebra, trig, or pre-calc). In other words you don't go to Grinnell to play sports, you go to get a unique and challenging education.

Love Grinnell and that's why I'm curious (and also why not part of IIAC), but your explanation doesn't explain why other equally and even more selective (by admit rate) academic powerhouses have such strong programs (like the last 2 national champions). Why not at least as good as Midwestern peers Carleton and Macalester? Many would consider Oberlin similarly unique/quirky/liberal and they have produced some decent to good teams.