2016 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE

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lastguyoffthebench

I originally had Scranton ahead of Haverford, but I cannot bump them to 5th in the Mid-Atlantic with a 1-0 road loss to Brandeis.  No chance Scranton is ahead of Etown... Yetttt.

Mr.Right

Just noticed Whitworth splurging and coming to the East coast to play 1/3 of the NJAC in 4 days. This is a perfect example of how when the committee eliminated the in region record / out of region record  primary and secondary criteria and combined it as just primary criteria you started to see more teams from different regions and over 500 miles apart start to play. Can only help recruiting and good for the fans as well.

9/10   at Rutgers-Newark   
9/11   at TCNJ   
9/13   at Montclair State   


Ron Boerger

The first d3soccer rankings of the season are out.

# School (1PV) Record Pts. Prev.
1 Amherst (15) D.N.P. 976
2 Brandeis (1) 2-0-0 867
3 Kenyon (1) 2-0-0 842
4 Loras 2-0-0 834
5 Trinity (Texas) 2-0-0 773
6 Rowan (2) 3-0-0 768
7 F&M 2-0-0 724
8 Ohio Wesleyan 2-0-0 706
9 Chicago 2-0-0 539
10 St. Lawrence 2-0-0 537

lastguyoffthebench

Brockport St sitting at 0-2 with Camden and Kean on the menu...

Dickinson sitting at 0-1-1 with Oneonta St and RPI next.

Eastern vs Lyco on Saturday...   

lastguyoffthebench


I don't see NSCAA releasing rankings this week... I believe it was always on Tuesday afternoons around 1:00PM.     

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 07, 2016, 08:19:24 PM
I originally had Scranton ahead of Haverford, but I cannot bump them to 5th in the Mid-Atlantic with a 1-0 road loss to Brandeis.  No chance Scranton is ahead of Etown... Yetttt.

Scranton sitting at 3-0, preseason favorites ahead of Etown in the Landmark, 3 shutouts, 2015 NCAA tournament team, beat Etown in the final last season....hard to not put them ahead of Etown in my opinion. This is the classic "well Etown was good back in the 90's so they must be good now" argument. Same with Messiah this year and last. Anybody who has watched Messiah in the last 5 or 10 years knows this team and last season's team is nowhere near the standard or dominance of previous teams yet spectators still believe they will win the national title. Everyone can have their opinion but please be some what realistic. My vote right now would go towards Scranton at this moment in time LastGuy. Etown has had a very strong start as well so I completely understand your logic  :)

LupoSPQR

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on September 08, 2016, 10:15:32 AM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 07, 2016, 08:19:24 PM
I originally had Scranton ahead of Haverford, but I cannot bump them to 5th in the Mid-Atlantic with a 1-0 road loss to Brandeis.  No chance Scranton is ahead of Etown... Yetttt.

Scranton sitting at 3-0, preseason favorites ahead of Etown in the Landmark, 3 shutouts, 2015 NCAA tournament team, beat Etown in the final last season....hard to not put them ahead of Etown in my opinion. This is the classic "well Etown was good back in the 90's so they must be good now" argument. Same with Messiah this year and last. Anybody who has watched Messiah in the last 5 or 10 years knows this team and last season's team is nowhere near the standard or dominance of previous teams yet spectators still believe they will win the national title. Everyone can have their opinion but please be some what realistic. My vote right now would go towards Scranton at this moment in time LastGuy. Etown has had a very strong start as well so I completely understand your logic  :)

If you are going by difficulty...Muhlenberg, Gettysburg, Cabrini vs Hobart, TCNJ, and Wilkes

If you are going by Goal Dif... 7 vs 9

If you are going by last year... Etown beat Scranton in the league 2-0 and went 8-0 in the league... Scranton won 3-2 in the final...

If you are going by "preseason favorite"... Believe that Catholic was favored last year... and how did they do?

Regardless, its shocking that Scranton isn't in the top 25 especially since Etown is ranked 11th.  These teams should be a lot closer.  Also, as we have seen last year... just because a team is ranked in the Top 25 for D3soccer doesn't mean that they are looked at as the first 25 in... If I'm Scranton I get to play with a chip on my shoulder for the next week... I loved playing with a chip on my shoulder.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 08, 2016, 09:44:25 AM
Brockport St sitting at 0-2 with Camden and Kean on the menu...

Dickinson sitting at 0-1-1 with Oneonta St and RPI next.

Eastern vs Lyco on Saturday...

Big games for all those teams mentioned. Could make or break some seasons and it's only week 2!!

PaulNewman

We should make Thursdays D3 trivia night.

Can't remember if I ever mentioned this before but Martin at OWU and Coven at Brandeis have a lot in common, including, obviously, longevity.  Both very high in all-time wins with Martin being #1 overall across all NCAA divisions.  Coven went over 500 last year I think.

Both are from Eastern Mass.  Both went to college in Springfield, MA -- Martin a '71 grad of Springfield College and Coven '69 grad of American International College (AIC).

Springfield College, when formerly known as the International YMCA Training School, also was the birthplace of basketball via James Naismith, who eventually landed at Univ of Kansas where he coached Adolph Rupp and then Phog Allen coached Dean Smith.

Amos Alonzo Stagg, considered a father of American football, also was at Springfield College and the main athletic field there is called Stagg Field.

Another alum, William G. Morgan, invented volleyball.

Tony DiCicco also is a Springfield grad.

AIC was started as a college for French Canadian immigrants.

lastguyoffthebench

predictions for Friday:

Chicago WIN over North Park today in a solid match
F&M 3-0 WIN over Oswego St
St. John Fisher will test SLU and escape with a DRAW.   Could be on upset alert... SJF defeated Hobart and lost to Kean 1-0...
Manhattanville to DRAW vs RPI.
Oneonta St will put up 3 on Dickinson in a 3-1 WIN
Caroll vs Rose-Hulman DRAW
Messiah WIN over Oglethorpe 2-0
Wheaton WIN over John Carroll late...

Key regional match-up
H-S vs Trinity
Dallas vs Colorado
K-zoo vs Elmhurst
Millsaps vs Maryville

Shooter McGavin

I enjoy NCAC NE top 15 so I will give it a shot as well.

Shooter's 20

1. Amherst
2. Rowan
3. Kenyon
4. Brandeis
5. Loras
6. F&M
7. OWU
8. Chicago
9. CNU
10. Rose-Hulman
11. Trinity (Tx)
12. St. Lawrence
13. Haverford
14. Redlands
15. Ohio Northern
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16. Scranton
17. Whitworth
18. Macalester
19. Etown
20. Montclair St.

Ommadawn

Dickinson and Oneonta going at it right now on a beautiful afternoon in Upstate New York.  Oneonta up 1-0 15 minutes in.

Ommadawn

Oneonta scores again early in the second half on a nice header goal to go up 2-0 on Dickinson.

Ommadawn

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 09, 2016, 02:03:18 PM
predictions for Friday:

Oneonta St will put up 3 on Dickinson in a 3-1 WIN

lastguy's prediction fulfilled at the 64' mark.  3-0 Oneonta

luckylefty

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 07, 2016, 08:19:24 PM
I originally had Scranton ahead of Haverford, but I cannot bump them to 5th in the Mid-Atlantic with a 1-0 road loss to Brandeis.  No chance Scranton is ahead of Etown... Yetttt.

Yeah I couldn't disagree more on Scranton and Etown.  Etown hasnt played anyone yet.  Hobart is the biggest name on their schedule and they are currently winless.  Etown is a good team, and the Waso kid is the real deal, but they don't get the kids that they used too anymore. 

No reason for anyone to get all worked up yet, still incredibly early in the season, but from everything I've seen from Scranton they seem like they are for real.