2016 Playoffs

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wally_wabash

John Carroll won a region in 2002 and lost to Mount Union in the semis.
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Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat

Thanks WW! Was the OAC a tougher conference in the past? It would seem that with all the talent in that general area that getting good players wouldn't be all that difficult...

Ralph Turner

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Quote from: wally_wabash on November 11, 2016, 12:49:55 AM
John Carroll won a region in 2002 and lost to Mount Union in the semis.
+1!  You beat me to it!  LOL

(The toughest thing about getting old is not being able to burn the candle at both ends!  Gotta sleep at some time.)

Quote from: Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat on November 11, 2016, 02:26:33 AM
Thanks WW! Was the OAC a tougher conference in the past? It would seem that with all the talent in that general area that getting good players wouldn't be all that difficult...
John Carroll was sent to the East Region as a #7 and rolled thru the region. IMHO, that was after the decline of Rowan dominance had begun, the MAC was still in the South and the ACFC had Wesley, Salisbury and Frostburg, also in the South Region.


Correction: Not necessarily rolled, but went on the road.

10/19   at Mount Union * •   L, 35-16 (Regular season)

11/23   at Hobart   W, 27-7   
11/30   at Muhlenberg   W, 21-10   (A South Region team)
12/7           at Brockport   W, 16-10   
12/14   at Mount Union   L, 57-19

ADL70

Quote from: Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat on November 11, 2016, 12:32:02 AM

Has D3 ever had two teams from the same conference in the semis or finals? Would have to be prior to MUC's dominance....

In 1978 (8 team field) two then OAC teams, B-W and Wittenberg met in the Stagg Bowl.
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Quote from: jknezek on November 10, 2016, 01:40:07 PMI think, and DIII clearly agrees, the current system is best for the student athlete. I certainly can't think of anything better and don't believe that your ideas are better than what we have.

So true.  This is something that is being forgotten by us DIII fans.  We tend to forget about the big picture from time to time.

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Mike Swider, Wheaton HC, on his post game comments, said the following about the playoff scenario:

"The automatic qualifier system is killing the division 3 playoffs. There are teams getting automatic bids that are just not competitive in the post season. There are going to be some great teams that don't get to play. Until the NCAA creates a system that rewards excellence we will continue to have a problem"


SaintsFAN

Quote from: Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat on November 11, 2016, 02:26:33 AM
Thanks WW! Was the OAC a tougher conference in the past? It would seem that with all the talent in that general area that getting good players wouldn't be all that difficult...

The D3 Ohio Schools have ALOT of competition for the recruits, with FCS, D2 and NAIA schools in Ohio. 

That said, Mount Union, Ohio Northern and Heidelberg also go to Florida for kids.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Hawks88

So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

SaintsFAN

Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas

Not necessarily a foregone conclusion.  Sometimes an island team can actually get the weirdest first-round matchup (like, getting sent all the way across the country to Linfield or something) because they have to fly anyway and it's the easiest way to get everyone else paired up.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

Ralph Turner

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 12, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas

Not necessarily a foregone conclusion.  Sometimes an island team can actually get the weirdest first-round matchup (like, getting sent all the way across the country to Linfield or something) because they have to fly anyway and it's the easiest way to get everyone else paired up.
There are three travel orphans and the Texas Pair

Linfield
Redlands
Huntingdon
UMHB and HSU

Hawks88

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2016, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 12, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas

Not necessarily a foregone conclusion.  Sometimes an island team can actually get the weirdest first-round matchup (like, getting sent all the way across the country to Linfield or something) because they have to fly anyway and it's the easiest way to get everyone else paired up.
There are three travel orphans and the Texas Pair

Linfield
Redlands
Huntingdon
UMHB and HSU
Maybe they send Redlands to Alabama and send someone else to Linfield? Just trying to figure out a way to get a home game folks. ;)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2016, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 12, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas

Not necessarily a foregone conclusion.  Sometimes an island team can actually get the weirdest first-round matchup (like, getting sent all the way across the country to Linfield or something) because they have to fly anyway and it's the easiest way to get everyone else paired up.
There are three travel orphans and the Texas Pair

Linfield
Redlands
Huntingdon
UMHB and HSU
Maybe they send Redlands
First Round  (2 flights)

Redlands to Linfield   one flight
Huntingdon somewhere  one flight
HSU/UMHB no flights

Second round  (1.5 flights)

Linfield/Redlands    vs HSU/UMHB  on flight

If Huntingdon wins, one flight

I think that one pod is the "west of the 97th meridian" pod.

SaintsFAN

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 12, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas

Not necessarily a foregone conclusion.  Sometimes an island team can actually get the weirdest first-round matchup (like, getting sent all the way across the country to Linfield or something) because they have to fly anyway and it's the easiest way to get everyone else paired up.

True.  If they don't pair up the two from Texas, then Huntingdon will be Lone Star road warriors.

50/50 chance?   
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

wally_wabash

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 12, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
So, Washington winning the SAA leaves Huntingdon isolated with no one within 500 miles. Anyone have a clue what they do with us?

Texas

Not necessarily a foregone conclusion.  Sometimes an island team can actually get the weirdest first-round matchup (like, getting sent all the way across the country to Linfield or something) because they have to fly anyway and it's the easiest way to get everyone else paired up.

True.  If they don't pair up the two from Texas, then Huntingdon will be Lone Star road warriors.

50/50 chance?   

Pat will do the mock bracketing tonight, but I'm still having trouble seeing a scenario that avoids the ASC matchup.  Huntingdon has to fly somewhere and if you send them to Texas, then you create a new flight for an opponent of the remaining Texas team.  So you get three flights, when you can get away with two.  I know it stinks, but that's the business. 
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