2016 NCAA Tournament

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Brother Flounder

Man, that headbutt to the ref was bad, culture or not.  I have to say the Haverford players handled it pretty well refraining from a war.  This could have gotten much worse.  I know several teams of the supposed  "opposite" culture that would have retaliated.  While the culture may have some affect, I've never seen other teams with that supposed  "culture" headbutt a ref........

So, I guess I'm saying that the so-called culture excuse can only go so far.   Yes, aggressive play, and borderline dirty play is acceptable but not headbutting a ref.......

Mr.Right

BTW

Where are the UMB players comments? I have not heard them and do not see a link???

PaulNewman

I would like to see medical evidence that throwing a ball at full force at an adult male player 5-10 yards away is more dangerous or potentially lethal than kicking a ball at full force into a sternum or face.

All that aside, and back to soccer, Mr.Right I am curious as to how you think UMass will play against Tufts and whether you think the game will be tight and/or whether you see UMass as having a puncher's chance.

phillyfan12

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 16, 2016, 01:08:18 PM
BTW

Where are the UMB players comments? I have not heard them and do not see a link???

Here are some of the choice ones:

"Harverford, you guys are a bunch of f****ts for posting this video. just accept that you guys lost against 9 players and stop crying.
it is embarrassing that you are actually saying nobody was chanting anything racist,
love,
tu puta madre"

"Say No to Racism at Haverford College!
It was very sad and shocking to become a witness of how strongly racism in college sports still flows thank to the families of the student athletes who managed to send their "miracles" to a college to get formal education but totally forgot to educate them culturally and teach some simple laws of civilized humanity.
To me as a person of a different generation it seems pretty wild how someone in their twenties could be so barbarian and behind the times. How it is possible that someone so young and living in such an advanced country that leads the whole modern world could still have such a medieval set of mind.
During the last Sunday game, YOU, HAVERFORD COLLEGE STUDENTS, YOU - ATHLETES' PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS and THEIR FRIENDS, wanted to humiliate the UMASS Boston team, because they looked different than you, because they played better than you! YOU shouted 'Build the wall!' and other racist and hate  statements!
You were happy with every card that Boston team faced, with every inequitable judging. UMASS Boston Athletes had to play with 9 players against 11 of yours and YOU COULD NOT BREAK THEM! Now, after everything you did, sit still on you fifth point and learn how to lose honorably! YOU, who failed to raise respectable members of civilized society, sit still and think what SHAME and WORMWOOD you, and your kids are for this country!"

"Soccer is a contact sport, and everything can happen, but yes, you know better 'sofa and TV remote control experts'!"

"I know for a fact that they are playing. wbu? send me the link of your game i want to watch it online." (in response to Haverford not playing this weekend while UMB are)

"Leave your mail address and I will send you the masonry kit and a plane ticket to the border, so you could finally get up from the couch and go and build the wall you requested on Sunday. Do not thank me!"

"felixcloudy you aren't advancing to the next round. FACTS!!!!!"

"Gravitation is a powerful thing, especially if you walk your head forward, no?" (this one cracked me up because I guess they're saying that the headbutt(s) was due to a strong gravitational force on their heads!)

"Feel free to watch the game online on Saturday. They will be playing soccer while you guys are watching them. Lmao!"



Mr.Right

That is a comments section.....Do we have proof that the homophobic slur is an actual player???  No...I do not read comment sections for this reason...I think we should move on from this whole conversation as we should all agree to disagree on some of this stuff.


I think UMB does have a chance to beat Tufts with or without their coach. A slight chance but a chance. I would be shocked if he was coaching this weekend...When UMB plays without Williamson they do not have a monster target striker but they also become instantly faster up top. I think Tufts will close them hard when they have the ball like no other team they have seen this season. They will not be allowed to possess the ball like they are used to. In fact, I was quite surprised Haverford allowed them to possess as much as they did. That will not happen in this game. If Tufts plays like they did against Rowan defensively then UMB has no shot. If they come out sleeping like they did against Springfield then UMB will have some chances to take advantage. UMB does have depth but they will have to play ALOT fastre then they are normally used to playin. Tufts will speed them up and force plenty of giveaway's which Tufts will pounce on and try to score off of. I think Tufts will put this team to bed 2-0 but if Tufts is over confident then this could be an interesting game

blooter442

Quote from: NCAC New England on November 16, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
I am about as far left on the political spectrum as they come but no one does these kids any favors by explaining away behavior that should not be tolerated.  Doing so only serves to feed the voracious appetites and arguments on the far right against multi-multiculturalism and increased opportunities for the disadvantaged.

I'm moderate-left, but also agree 100%. Doing what is right morally > feeding a party agenda.

Quote from: NCAC New England on November 16, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
The videos of the coach that bloots referenced suggest he is pretty immature, basically goofing his way through every interview.

For those of you who don't want to spend time watching the video, I'll sum it up for you:

"Umm I honestly I don't really care about the NJAC, I know that people say they're good but you know there's a lot of people out there who say a lot that don't know what they're talking about, so I'll go on my own accord."

https://youtu.be/kiCBH6QQAs0?t=1m35s

To be fair, he did say he assumed Kean would be a good team. That said, not a very professional statement from a coach who - while "young" compared to other head coaches like Coven, Anderson, etc. - should be more polished. I have seen players conduct themselves more professionally than that; in fact, I would expect college-aged young men to be more professional than that.

I like watching Tufts play, but wanted UMB to go far in the tourney as recently as last week. This weekend changed all of that. Go Tufts.

2xfaux

Still a long way until game time but hats off to the refs in the Tufts v UMB game.  That will be a thankless job.

Midwest Soccer

As a reminder, this is the second consecutive year that there has been controversy surrounding the UMass Boston team as they enter the NCAA Tournament. Last year it was 3 players being suspended for tweeting inappropriate things at ESPN announcer Taylor Twellman.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/13/taylor-twellman-umass-boston-soccer-twitter/

This is a pretty awful look for this program. They are getting results yes, but the behavior in which they are conducting themselves is flat out embarrassing. As a Division III soccer program, it's not good to find yourself making national news for the wrong thing even one time (the tweets), but to follow that up with this effort where you have an assault on a referee, a separate head butt, and a punted ball into the face of an opponent....wait til this goes viral.


firstplaceloser

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 15, 2016, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: blooter442 on November 15, 2016, 12:45:43 PM
Just found the video of the second goal in Rutgers-Newark's 2nd goal against ETown - what a hit. They have a camera at the back corner of the goal and usually when you see those videos it just shakes and bounces up but this one you can hear the shot hit the back metal part of the goal. Pretty cool.

https://youtu.be/RLzybL5nArY?t=44s


RUN is the REAL DEAL...That might be the goal of the year.....If they can tighten up defensively they have a chance to win it all.

Da Sousa is the real deal. best of luck to RUN

PaulNewman

Anybody have reliable impressions of Redlands?  They have played in some big games and did well to get through Wash U and DePauw.  I know St Thomas has had a phenomenal season for them, but I would think Redlands is the one team in that sectional with a shot at upsetting Chicago if they can avoid falling behind early.

firstplaceloser

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Quote from: blooter442 on November 16, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: NCAC New England on November 16, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
I am about as far left on the political spectrum as they come but no one does these kids any favors by explaining away behavior that should not be tolerated.  Doing so only serves to feed the voracious appetites and arguments on the far right against multi-multiculturalism and increased opportunities for the disadvantaged.

I'm moderate-left, but also agree 100%. Doing what is right morally > feeding a party agenda.

Quote from: NCAC New England on November 16, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
The videos of the coach that bloots referenced suggest he is pretty immature, basically goofing his way through every interview.

For those of you who don't want to spend time watching the video, I'll sum it up for you:

"Umm I honestly I don't really care about the NJAC, I know that people say they're good but you know there's a lot of people out there who say a lot that don't know what they're talking about, so I'll go on my own accord."

https://youtu.be/kiCBH6QQAs0?t=1m35s

To be fair, he did say he assumed Kean would be a good team. That said, not a very professional statement from a coach who - while "young" compared to other head coaches like Coven, Anderson, etc. - should be more polished. I have seen players conduct themselves more professionally than that; in fact, I would expect college-aged young men to be more professional than that.

I like watching Tufts play, but wanted UMB to go far in the tourney as recently as last week. This weekend changed all of that. Go Tufts.

i'm going through these comments after not being
on in a few days. so i'm commenting on where i see fit. that coach from umass is an
over confident (i can't say what i want, sadly) but after hearing what he said idk why kids would he want to play for him. i would have loved for his past teams to play some of the NJAC teams from the last few years. but on a brighter note they get to play Tufts who beats every NjAC Team and also the arch nemesis of the NJAC, Messiah.

firstplaceloser

did a little research on Ocane williamson the one who head butted the referee. he has hopes of playing pro and after that incident kids them goodbye my friend. He could have excelled at a PDL
level then moved on.

found this as well (interesting song choice) 😂

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8lMg0uyWk

blooter442

Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 16, 2016, 03:13:23 PM
but on a brighter note they get to play Tufts who beats every NjAC Team and also the arch nemesis of the NJAC, Messiah.

Yep.

Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 16, 2016, 03:13:23 PM
did a little research on Ocane williamson the one who head butted the referee. he has hopes of playing pro and after that incident kids them goodbye my friend. He could have excelled at a PDL
level then moved on.

found this as well (interesting song choice) 😂

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8lMg0uyWk

😂

Why is his first highlight him missing? I mean, great effort, and would have been a worldie if it had gone in, but it didn't.

oldonionbag

It would have always be an uphill climb, considering he is already 26. The fact that he is that old and did something so stupid BOGGLES my mind. There's no excuse for it, but I could see a hot-headed 18 year old doing something rash - but a man who is 4 years away from his 30th birthday? Cmon. He graduated high school the same year that some kids he is playing against graduated from fifth grade! I hope he has at least apologized for his behavior.

ECSUalum

Quote from: GabWirz on November 15, 2016, 11:09:49 PM
This is footage of the 2 red cards and the headbutt that should have resulted in a 3rd red from the Umass Boston - Haverford game.  As a former player it's sad to think that the careers of the Haverford seniors were ended in PKs by a team that exhibits this kind of behavior. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZO-ULHFxA&feature=youtu.be

I just saw the video, and the actions of the UMB team are embarrassing to me, the University and the Little East Conference.  After watching UMB, this year it is obvious that their Coach, Beverlin either does not or cannot control his players when they fall behind and lose their composure.  I personally think Beverlin is a bit arrogant from pre/post game interviews I have watched over the last couple years. The Kang foul and his kicking the ball into the face of the Haverford player was bad in itself, but the two head butts, the last on an official, was way overboard.  I see Williamson name is still on the roster as of today.  These incidents put a huge black mark on this team...very sad!!