UAA 2017

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Mr.Right

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Quote from: blooter442 on October 07, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
Brandeis 2-0 Carnegie Mellon is the final. Judges were outshot 22-8 but got two goals from corners Woodhouse made 11 saves. What a way for him to respond after being benched for a bit.

Much like the Brandeis of 2012 and 2013, CMU is a very good technical team but doesn't seem to have as much "bite" as in the past. As they often are in UAA games, where the margins are extremely fine, set pieces were the difference. Still, a great win for Margolis and company against a very good CMU side.


Big time win. We talked about this earlier in the week but that win is a win Brandeis needed for its resume.


Also, I know it is early but if Brandeis can play the way they played 1st Half they could win the conference outright. They only have 2 conference road games left at UR and Emory.

PaulNewman

Hope I didn't give the wrong impression, as I think Brandeis always has had a strong academic reputation and one that indeed was on the intellectual side of things and a leader in progressive thought. It is certainly different, though, than the NESCACs, kind of like Holy Cross is different than the NESCACs, in a different way.  I'm curious if Margolis competes directly against NESCACs in recruiting or sort of works his way around them.

At any rate, with the Chicago loss (at Chicago, right?!), and Brandeis getting Chicago and Wash U at home, the Judges are in a very good position.  Impressive.  Always seem to be very efficient, too.  Why outshoot opponents 35-3 if you aren't gonna score lol?

CovensCorner

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 07, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Hope I didn't give the wrong impression, as I think Brandeis always has had a strong academic reputation and one that indeed was on the intellectual side of things and a leader in progressive thought. It is certainly different, though, than the NESCACs, kind of like Holy Cross is different than the NESCACs, in a different way.  I'm curious if Margolis competes directly against NESCACs in recruiting or sort of works his way around them.

At any rate, with the Chicago loss (at Chicago, right?!), and Brandeis getting Chicago and Wash U at home, the Judges are in a very good position.  Impressive.  Always seem to be very efficient, too.  Why outshoot opponents 35-3 if you aren't gonna score lol?

To answer your question I believe an advantage that allows Brandeis to compete for NESCAC recruits is its pristine location and proximity to Boston.  Say for instance, if Brandeis was in an isolated town in New England, it ability to attract high quality recruits would be significantly reduced, despite the offering of an excellent education and the impact in which Margolis brings.

Laserpen123

I never really liked the Carnegie Mellon coach, and my opinion was proved right today. He refused to shake hands with the Brandeis players after the game today, and a couple of his players followed his lead, including number 18, who basically concussed Berg on the last play. Wonder if anyone else saw that, does not set a good example for the program

Mr.Right

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Quote from: Laserpen123 on October 07, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
I never really liked the Carnegie Mellon coach, and my opinion was proved right today. He refused to shake hands with the Brandeis players after the game today, and a couple of his players followed his lead, including number 18, who basically concussed Berg on the last play. Wonder if anyone else saw that, does not set a good example for the program

I was not at the game but watching on the stream...They kept turning the camera when any extra curricular stuff was going on which was quite often the last 10-15 minutes. I could tell the game was getting chippy. Must be some bad blood between the 2 teams but if what you say is true that is ridiculous. My guess is CMU thought they were dealing with a homer ref because he did make a couple questionable calls and no calls against CMU but that in no way affected the game or result. The coach should be more sporting and worry more about why his team failed to show until the 2nd half. My gut say's he knows that was a huge loss because they are now 8-2-1 with 1 solid win v Redlands and a good draw v John Carroll but the rest of his wins are not against any team that will be regionally ranked in a few weeks and they have Chicago next.



Side Note: The situation reminds me of when Pep was at Bayern and they were playing the MLS All-Stars and he dissed Caleb Porter because he thought the All-Stars were getting a little to physical for his pre season "tune-up"..I always love Pep but that even left a bad taste in my mouth

Laserpen123

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 07, 2017, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: Laserpen123 on October 07, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
I never really liked the Carnegie Mellon coach, and my opinion was proved right today. He refused to shake hands with the Brandeis players after the game today, and a couple of his players followed his lead, including number 18, who basically concussed Berg on the last play. Wonder if anyone else saw that, does not set a good example for the program

I was not at the game but watching on the stream...They kept turning the camera when any extra curricular stuff was going on which was quite often the last 10-15 minutes. I could tell the game was getting chippy. Must be some bad blood between the 2 teams but if what you say is true that is ridiculous. My guess is CMU thought they were dealing with a homer ref because he did make a couple questionable calls and no calls against CMU but that in no way affected the game or result. The coach should be more sporting and worry more about why his team failed to show until the 2nd half. My gut say's he knows that was a huge loss because they are now 8-2-1 with 1 solid win v Redlands and a good draw v John Carroll but the rest of his wins are not against any team that will be regionally ranked in a few weeks and they have Chicago next.

It is true, and it was really quite shocking. Never had someone do that before. A bunch of chippy play both ways, but usually teams can get it together and shake hands after the game. Big win for Brandeis as they have Wash U and Chicago at home.

blooter442

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 07, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Hope I didn't give the wrong impression, as I think Brandeis always has had a strong academic reputation and one that indeed was on the intellectual side of things and a leader in progressive thought. It is certainly different, though, than the NESCACs, kind of like Holy Cross is different than the NESCACs, in a different way.  I'm curious if Margolis competes directly against NESCACs in recruiting or sort of works his way around them.

Nope, you definitely didn't, and I think the Holy Cross parallel is definitely fair — I was just suggesting that it has become more mainstream in recent years. I'm sure there is some competition, although I do think Margolis and Coven are quite visible in the MA club/academy soccer scene, so I imagine that helps.

PaulNewman

The CMU coach is a disgrace...he screamed for 90+ minutes at Kenyon, at Redlands, basically every game...few years ago Rochester was begging for someone to go get the CMU AD...He is a horrible fit for a school like CMU. 

Ommadawn

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 07, 2017, 03:36:03 PM
The CMU coach is a disgrace...he screamed for 90+ minutes at Kenyon, at Redlands, basically every game...few years ago Rochester was begging for someone to go get the CMU AD...He is a horrible fit for a school like CMU.

I know a (then high school) player who heard him on the stream and crossed CMU off his list right then and there. 

Ommadawn

Quote from: CovensCorner on October 07, 2017, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: PaulNewman on October 07, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Hope I didn't give the wrong impression, as I think Brandeis always has had a strong academic reputation and one that indeed was on the intellectual side of things and a leader in progressive thought. It is certainly different, though, than the NESCACs, kind of like Holy Cross is different than the NESCACs, in a different way.  I'm curious if Margolis competes directly against NESCACs in recruiting or sort of works his way around them.

At any rate, with the Chicago loss (at Chicago, right?!), and Brandeis getting Chicago and Wash U at home, the Judges are in a very good position.  Impressive.  Always seem to be very efficient, too.  Why outshoot opponents 35-3 if you aren't gonna score lol?

To answer your question I believe an advantage that allows Brandeis to compete for NESCAC recruits is its pristine location and proximity to Boston.  Say for instance, if Brandeis was in an isolated town in New England, it ability to attract high quality recruits would be significantly reduced, despite the offering of an excellent education and the impact in which Margolis brings.

Brandeis draws from the same USSDA and prep school pools that NESCACs do, but Margolis' longtime affiliation with the Bolts has to help.  Another factor is the league itself.  The UAA has a strong appeal to some recruits due to the classy schools and the D1-like aspect of flying to league games.

mjan

Quote from: Laserpen123 on October 07, 2017, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 07, 2017, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: Laserpen123 on October 07, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
I never really liked the Carnegie Mellon coach, and my opinion was proved right today. He refused to shake hands with the Brandeis players after the game today, and a couple of his players followed his lead, including number 18, who basically concussed Berg on the last play. Wonder if anyone else saw that, does not set a good example for the program

I was not at the game but watching on the stream...They kept turning the camera when any extra curricular stuff was going on which was quite often the last 10-15 minutes. I could tell the game was getting chippy. Must be some bad blood between the 2 teams but if what you say is true that is ridiculous. My guess is CMU thought they were dealing with a homer ref because he did make a couple questionable calls and no calls against CMU but that in no way affected the game or result. The coach should be more sporting and worry more about why his team failed to show until the 2nd half. My gut say's he knows that was a huge loss because they are now 8-2-1 with 1 solid win v Redlands and a good draw v John Carroll but the rest of his wins are not against any team that will be regionally ranked in a few weeks and they have Chicago next.

It is true, and it was really quite shocking. Never had someone do that before. A bunch of chippy play both ways, but usually teams can get it together and shake hands after the game. Big win for Brandeis as they have Wash U and Chicago at home.


Those two home games don't mean much if they lose next Sunday.

blooter442

Quote from: mjan on October 07, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Those two home games don't mean much if they lose next Sunday.

True, although it does seem like you're assuming Brandeis is likely to lose, when the Judges did beat Emory in Atlanta two years back, so there is precedent for Brandeis to potentially get the road win (although admittedly Emory is 14-1 in this fixture at home, so I do think -- combined with both teams' comparable starts to the season -- the Eagles will be slightly favored).

Regardless, I don't think any team goes 7-0 in UAA play this year -- Brandeis was 6-1 two years back and Chicago 5-0-2 in conference both last year and 2014 -- so I think, particularly with Chicago being upset yesterday, the race will stay wide open until the end.

blooter442

WashU announcer talking about the Chicago game yesterday: "Not sure if someone gave the Maroons some ex-lax brownies or what."

0-0 between WUSTL and Rochester thus far. Rochester with the better opportunities to start, but WashU got into the game towards the end of the first.

blooter442

Consistent with years past, Rochester's athleticism and workrate is impressive. They do not have any stars offensively but their approach does lead to a number of good chances. Yellowjackets with the two best opportunities so far in the second half -- one well-saved by the WashU GK, the other a shot from inside the box deflected to the GK. Still 0-0.

blooter442

I like the WashU commentator. Fairly objective and relateable and does a good job of keeping viewers interested in a game that is still scoreless.