2017 Season - National Perspective

[NEPAFAN]

would anyone volunteer to do a "How They Fared" of the d3soccer top 25? They do something similar on the Basketball board; of course I am not volunteering myself.

This is what the basketball one looks like:

How They Fared (Complete) -- final report for 2016-17

Top 25
Rank      Pts      Team   W-L      Results
#1   615   Babson   25-2   def. Springfield, 67-62; LOST to #31 MIT, 62-65
#2   610   Whitman   27-0   def. George Fox, 105-75; def. #4 Whitworth, 86-83 OT
#3   573   Christopher Newport   25-2   def. Marymount, 78-53; def. #20 Salisbury, 63-62
#4   518   Whitworth   23-4   def. Linfield, 76-64; LOST at #2 Whitman, 83-86 OT
#5   492   Washington U.   20-5   LOST to Chicago, 74-81
#6   489   UW-River Falls   24-3   def. UW-La Crosse, 68-55; def. UW-Oshkosh, 60-59
#7   476   Ramapo   25-2   def. Rowan, 110-101; def. #21 New Jersey City, 67-64
#8   458   Marietta   24-4   def. Heidelberg, 94-80 OT; def. Mount Union, 100-78; def. Baldwin Wallace, 83-74
#9   446   Middlebury   24-3   def. (n) Trinity (Conn.), 76-60; def. (n) T#35 Williams, 84-62
#10   400   Rochester   21-4   LOST at Emory, 62-63
#11   374   Benedictine   23-4   def. Wisconsin Lutheran, 72-63; def. Concordia (Wis.), 93-89 2nd
#12   349   Tufts   20-6   LOST to T#35 Williams, 65-81
#13   326   St. Norbert   19-5   LOST to Lake Forest, 70-73
#14   252   Denison   22-5   def. DePauw, 85-79; LOST to (n) Wooster, 77-87
#15   251   Neumann   25-2   def. Rosemont, 87-69; def. Gwynedd Mercy, 77-53
#16   240   Hanover   23-3   def. Transylvania, 78-76; def. Mount St. Joseph, 58-51
#17   207   Susquehanna   21-5   LOST at Moravian, 69-81
#18   204   Hope   21-6   def. Alma, 63-45; LOST to Calvin, 83-86
#19   158   UW-Whitewater   21-6   def. UW-Stout, 78-69; LOST at UW-Oshkosh, 61-75
#20   123   Salisbury   20-7   def. York (Pa.), 86-80 2OT; LOST at #3 Christopher Newport, 62-63
#21   86   New Jersey City   21-7   won at TCNJ, 77-69; LOST at #7 Ramapo, 64-67
#22   70   Ohio Wesleyan   21-7   def. Kenyon, 89-81; def. Wittenberg, 77-68; LOST to Wooster, 72-76
#23   67   Amherst   17-7   IDLE
#24   50   Augustana   19-8   LOST at Illinois Wesleyan, 77-107; def. (n) North Park, 86-70; LOST to North Central (Ill.), 64-69
#25   42   Lycoming   23-4   def. Lebanon Valley, 88-64; def. Albright, 76-62
Others receiving votes
Rank      Pts      Team   W-L      Results
#26   38   Swarthmore   22-5   def. Ursinus, 86-66; def. Dickinson, 68-64
#27   36   St. John Fisher   22-5   def. Nazareth, 76-69; def. Stevens, 80-69
#28   31   Endicott   22-6   def. Salve Regina, 110-64; def. Eastern Nazarene, 84-66; LOST at Nichols, 64-67
#29   28   Wesleyan   19-6   IDLE
#30   25   UW-Eau Claire   18-8   LOST to UW-La Crosse, 66-76
#31   21   MIT   21-6   def. (n) WPI, 63-61; won at #1 Babson, 67-62
#32   18   Guilford   23-5   def. (n) Hampden-Sydney, 63-53; def. (n) Virginia Wesleyan, 67-64; def. (n) Emory and Henry, 64-54
T#33   9   Albertus Magnus   23-4   def. Anna Maria, 92-67; def. Mount Ida, 107-68; def. Lasell, 101-83
T#33   9   Bethel   21-6   def. T#35 Carleton, 57-53; def. St. John's, 79-75
T#35   8   Carleton   18-9   def. Augsburg, 66-63; LOST at T#33 Bethel, 53-57
T#35   8   Williams   19-8   won at #12 Tufts, 81-65; LOST to (n) #9 Middlebury, 62-84
T#37   4   Brockport   19-7   LOST to (n) SUNY Oneonta, 72-85
T#37   4   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   22-4   won at Occidental, 70-66 OT; def. Pomona-Pitzer, 70-64; def. Cal Lutheran, 77-71
T#37   4   Staten Island   21-6   def. (n) Baruch, 71-54; won at CCNY, 77-66
T#40   2   Scranton   21-6   def. Catholic, 75-68; def. Moravian, 68-63
T#40   2   St. Thomas   19-7   LOST to St. John's, 78-80
T#42   1   Hardin-Simmons   22-6   def. (n) East Texas Baptist, 89-80; def. (n) Texas-Dallas, 76-61; won at LeTourneau, 104-92
T#42   1   Ripon   20-5   def. (n) Cornell, 80-79; def. (n) Lake Forest, 81-72

[firstplaceloser]

can tonight be possibly the game of the year? Rowan host messiah. i will absolutely be attending.

[Ejay]

https://herosports.com/rankings/college-d3-mens-soccer

For whatever it's worth...
1   Chicago ( 5-0)
2   Calvin ( 5-0)
3   Oneonta St ( 4-0)
4   John Carroll ( 5-0)
5   Messiah ( 4-1)
6   Lycoming ( 6-0)
7   Trinity (TX) ( 5-0)
8   Amherst ( 1-0)
9   Gettysburg ( 4-0)
10   Rutgers-Newark ( 5-0)
11   Johns Hopkins ( 5-0)
12   Puget Sound ( 2-1)
13   North Park ( 3-1)
14   Haverford ( 4-0-1)
15   Wartburg ( 3-0-1)
16   Rowan ( 5-1)
17   Skidmore ( 2-0-1)
18   Carnegie Mellon ( 3-1)
19   Oberlin ( 3-1-1)
20   Oswego St ( 4-0-1)
21   Geneva ( 4-0)
22   Kenyon ( 4-1-1)
23   Oglethorpe ( 4-1)
24   Springfield ( 4-0)
25   WashU ( 3-0-1)
26   Drew ( 5-0-1)
27   Transylvania ( 5-0)
28   Mary Hardin-Baylor ( 4-1)
29   St. Joseph's (ME) ( 4-0)
30   Williams ( 2-0)

[Shooter McGavin]

That poll has Tufts at #58...not entirely accurate 

[rudy]

That poll has Tufts at #58...not entirely accurate 

I think this is just a mathematical calculation ...not a poll.

[Shooter McGavin]

https://www.masseyratings.com/csoc/ncaa-d3/ratings


Massey Ratings

Team   Record      

1. Chicago-5-0
2. Amherst-1-0
3. Tufts-3-0
4. Calvin-5-0
5. Messiah-4-1
6. Trinity TX-5-0
7. Lycoming-6-0
8. SUNY Oneonta-4-0
9. John Carroll-5-0
10. Haverford-4-0-1
11. Williams-2-0
12. Johns Hopkins-5-0
13. Scranton-5-0
14. Kenyon-4-1-1
15. Rutgers-Newark-5-0
16. Wash & Lee-4-0-1
17. Rowan-5-1
18. Carnegie Mellon-3-1
19. CT College-3-0   
20. Lynchburg3-1-1   
21. Cortland St-5-1   
22. Brandeis-3-1
23. Washington MO-3-0-1
24. Springfield-4-0   
25. MA Boston-2-0-2

[Shooter McGavin]

That poll has Tufts at #58...not entirely accurate 

I think this is just a mathematical calculation ...not a poll.

Yes it uses the Bennett Ranking System...Massey Ratings are also statistically based and Tufts is #3 in that poll...

[Shooter McGavin]

would anyone volunteer to do a "How They Fared" of the d3soccer top 25? They do something similar on the Basketball board; of course I am not volunteering myself.

This is what the basketball one looks like:

How They Fared (Complete) -- final report for 2016-17

Top 25
Rank      Pts      Team   W-L      Results
#1   615   Babson   25-2   def. Springfield, 67-62; LOST to #31 MIT, 62-65
#2   610   Whitman   27-0   def. George Fox, 105-75; def. #4 Whitworth, 86-83 OT
#3   573   Christopher Newport   25-2   def. Marymount, 78-53; def. #20 Salisbury, 63-62
#4   518   Whitworth   23-4   def. Linfield, 76-64; LOST at #2 Whitman, 83-86 OT
#5   492   Washington U.   20-5   LOST to Chicago, 74-81
........cont.

This is a nice idea if someone stays on top of it each week.

[Shooter McGavin]

can tonight be possibly the game of the year? Rowan host messiah. i will absolutely be attending.

Does Amherst face Tufts? Because if so then no this is not the game of the year.

[oldonionbag]

Amherst always faces Tufts. Usually a great clash, showcasing very different styles of play.

[OldNed]

That poll has Tufts at #58...not entirely accurate 

I think this is just a mathematical calculation ...not a poll.

In taking a quick look at things, it makes me wonder what the criteria is for some of their calculations.  For example, I sorted on the Defense column to see which teams would be ranked highest defensively.  To my surprise, the two top ranked teams defensively are Colorado College (2-1-1) and Dallas (1-1-1).  Colorado has allowed one goal and Dallas has allowed 3 goals, yet there are a number of teams (Marietta, Randolph-Macon, Tufts, St. Joseph's of Maine among others) that have not yet given up any goals on the season. 

It seems to me like some of their calculations are screwy just from looking at things on the surface. Does anyone have any in-depth knowledge of how these calculations are made up?

[OldNed]

Here's a link with some of the details about the Bennett Rankings.
https://herosports.com/news/ncaa-womens-soccer/why-bennettrank-is-the-best-college-soccer-ranking-system

One thing that stood out to me was when they say "We really need 5+ games as a minimum data set to prime our mathematical models correctly, and we need to have all teams in the division playing at least a few games within their division." This makes sense to me that early season might skew some of the calculations, but as the season goes along the numbers will make more sense.

[Ejay]

Messiah up 1-0 @ HT vs. Rowan.  Messiah has lots of time in the midfield and as usual, they seem content to simply possess the ball. Rowan seems to be sitting back and trying unsuccessfully to counter. I would think Rowan may think about playing some high pressure in the 2H.

[firstplaceloser]

messiah 3-2 in 2OT #6 for rowan missed a Pk then gave the ball up for the game winner. great game though

[NEPAFAN]

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