2017 Season - National Perspective

Mid-Atlantic Fan · September 16, 2017, 10:34:30 AM

Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 15, 2017, 09:35:59 PM
sad part is rowan was giving it to them and messiah was worried. messiah refuses to play balls in behind and just let themselves get pressed and rowan capitalized. rowan with doherty awake is an entire different team than doherty quiet on the field. first half and second half were a different rowan teams. messiah has definitely lost that elienstatus and just play good soccer. #6 for amessiah best player on the field. rarely turned the ball over and controlled the game. probably best midfielder in the nation right now.

IMO Messiah dominated the first half. Rowan dominated the second half. Overtime was neutral. #6 for Rowan blew the game with missing the PK but Rowan couldn't find a way to hold on for 5 more minutes at the end of the 2nd half and seal up a 2-1 victory. Instead they gave up an awful goal at the hands of the GK's awful mistake. Even then they still had chances to escape and win but the longer you let any Messiah team hang around or don't capitalize on your golden chances they will eventually punish you and Messiah did just that.

Both teams are very good and will be in NCAA's but both teams have some serious work to do if they want to be discussed as Final 4 contenders. Defensively they both are a train wreck and both teams goalies are the team's worst players.

Messiah has 2 shutouts in 6 games and give up an average of 1 goal per game (6 total). Rowan has 3 shutouts in 7 games and give up 1.29 goals per game (9 total).

PaulNewman · September 16, 2017, 02:30:12 PM

Kind of random, but while watching the Messiah game last night I wondered if any schools come close to Messiah and OWU in terms of brothers who have played for the programs. That says a lot, although in case of Messiah at least some of that must be related to mission-based nature of the college.

Btw, on the game, for a team with national title aspirations that's a game Rowan can't lose. While I would vote for the Falcons as the better, smoother soccer team, you just can't lose that one at home after taking the lead in very impressive fashion, giving up a bad late goal, and then blowing a PK in OT. Especially with HOME FIELD...and a reminder that last year as a national title favorite could not handle the moment against Tufts on home field either.

PaulNewman · September 16, 2017, 02:36:33 PM

Another random observation while I'm hypomanic....I don't think he's even a soccer person, but has there ever been a better screen name than BillyRayJimBob? Or maybe only us Southerners will appreciate that.

lastguyoffthebench · September 16, 2017, 08:01:21 PM

Claudio Reyna like mistake in back by Camden and Newark rips a shot in upper 90..

jknezek · September 16, 2017, 08:07:50 PM

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 16, 2017, 08:01:21 PM
Claudio Reyna like mistake in back by Camden and Newark rips a shot in upper 90..

Aww.. let's not make that what Claudio Reyna is remembered for please. That guy carried the National Team through some lean times. We could use a few more like him now.

firstplaceloser · September 16, 2017, 09:28:10 PM

Newark beats Camden for the first time since 2012. they will surely be relieved

firstplaceloser · September 16, 2017, 09:33:12 PM

a lot of upsets tonight. Middlebury over Amherst. Kenyon tied. Tufts ties. Calvin wins 2-0 and look like the most consistent team as of yet. also Corrland st over St lawrence is a pretty convincing W

Mid-Atlantic Fan · September 18, 2017, 02:48:10 PM

MAF Top 10
1. Calvin (6-0-0)
2. Chicago (6-0-0)
3. Rutgers Newark (5-0-0)
4. Lycoming (7-0-0)
5. Tufts (4-0-1)
6. John Carroll (6-0-0)
7. Messiah (5-1-0)
8. Oneonta St. (4-0-1)
9. Hopkins (6-0-0)
10. W&L (5-0-1)

Ryan Harmanis · September 19, 2017, 07:31:40 PM

How last week's Top 25 fared:

#1    Calvin (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   at Trine (3-1-1) * •   W 3-0
   Sep. 16   Hope (2-4-0) * •   W 2-0

#2    Tufts (4-0-1)
   Sep. 16   Connecticut College (3-0-2) * •   T 0-0
   Sep. 17   Trinity (Conn.) (1-3-0) * •   W 2-0

#3    Chicago (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   at #25 Loras (4-2-0) •   W 3-0
   Sep. 16   at Aurora (5-3-0) •   W 6-0

#4    Trinity (Texas) (6-1-0)
   Sep. 12   Schreiner (2-5-0) * •   W 2-0
   Sep. 15   University of Dallas (3-1-1) * •   L 2-3
   Sep. 17   Colorado College (3-2-1) * •   W 2-0

#5    Lycoming (7-0-0)
   Sep. 13   Medaille (4-3-0) •   W 2-0
   Sep. 16   at #13 Scranton (5-1-0) •   W 3-1

#6    Rutgers-Newark (6-0-0)
   Sep. 16   Rutgers-Camden (2-4-1) * •   W 2-0

#7    Amherst (1-1-0)
   Sep. 16   Middlebury (4-1-0) * •   L 0-1

#8    Oneonta State (4-0-1)
   Sep. 16   at Vassar (3-2-1) •   T 1-1

#9    John Carroll (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   at Case Western Reserve (3-2-1) •   W 1-0
   Sep. 16   Ohio Wesleyan (3-3-0) •   W 5-4

#10    Haverford (4-1-1)
   Sep. 13   Stevens (4-3-0) •   W 1-0
   Sep. 16   at #14 Johns Hopkins (6-0-0) * •   L 0-2

#11    Kenyon (4-1-2)
   Sep. 13   at Marietta (4-1-1) •   T 0-0
   Sep. 16   Thomas More (3-2-1) •   T 1-1

#12    Messiah (5-1-0)
   Sep. 13   Dickinson (3-2-1) •   W 4-0
   Sep. 15   at #17 Rowan (6-2-0) •   W 3-2

#13    Scranton (5-1-0)
   Sep. 12   at Misericordia (0-6-0) •   W 2-0
   Sep. 16   #5 Lycoming (7-0-0) •   L 1-3

#14    Johns Hopkins (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   York (Pa.) (2-3-1) •   W 4-1
   Sep. 16   #10 Haverford (4-1-1) * •   W 2-0

#15    Washington and Lee (5-0-1)
   Sep. 12   at Southern Virginia (3-4-0) •   W 7-0
   Sep. 16   Capital (4-2-0) •   W 4-0

#16    St. Thomas (6-1-0)
   Sep. 13   Saint Mary's (Minn.) (4-3-0) * •   W 2-1
   Sep. 16   at St. John's (1-3-1) * •   W 5-1

#17    Rowan (6-2-0)
   Sep. 13   Hood (4-3-0) •   W 5-0
   Sep. 15   #12 Messiah (5-1-0) •   L 2-3
   Sep. 16   New Jersey City (4-2-1) * •   W 6-0

#18    Carnegie Mellon (4-1-0)
   Sep. 15   Westminster (Pa.) (3-4-1) •   W 4-0

#19    Cortland State (6-1-0)
   Sep. 13   Alfred (1-4-0) •   W 3-0
   Sep. 16   St. Lawrence (2-3-1) •   W 3-1

#20    Brandeis (4-1-0)
   Sep. 13   WPI (4-2-0) •   W 2-1
   Sep. 16   Elms (0-5-0) •   W 6-0

#21    Gettysburg (5-0-0)
   Sep. 16   at Washington College (1-5-0) * •   W 3-0

#22    Wartburg (3-1-1)
   Sep. 17   Macalester (4-2-1) •   L 0-1

#23    Lynchburg (4-1-1)
   Sep. 14   Mary Washington (4-1-1) •   L 1-2
   Sep. 17   at Oglethorpe (4-2-0) •   W 1-0

#24    Stockton (6-0-1)
   Sep. 13   at Arcadia (4-1-1) •   T 0-0
   Sep. 16   Kean (3-2-1) * •   W 1-0

#25    Loras (4-2-0)
   Sep. 13   #3 Chicago (6-0-0) •   L 0-3
   Sep. 17   Carthage (3-2-1) •   W 4-0

NEPAFAN · September 19, 2017, 09:38:01 PM

Quote from: Ryan Harmanis on September 19, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
How last week's Top 25 fared:

#1    Calvin (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   at Trine (3-1-1) * •   W 3-0
   Sep. 16   Hope (2-4-0) * •   W 2-0

#2    Tufts (4-0-1)
   Sep. 16   Connecticut College (3-0-2) * •   T 0-0
   Sep. 17   Trinity (Conn.) (1-3-0) * •   W 2-0

#3    Chicago (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   at #25 Loras (4-2-0) •   W 3-0
   Sep. 16   at Aurora (5-3-0) •   W 6-0

#4    Trinity (Texas) (6-1-0)
   Sep. 12   Schreiner (2-5-0) * •   W 2-0
   Sep. 15   University of Dallas (3-1-1) * •   L 2-3
   Sep. 17   Colorado College (3-2-1) * •   W 2-0

#5    Lycoming (7-0-0)
   Sep. 13   Medaille (4-3-0) •   W 2-0
   Sep. 16   at #13 Scranton (5-1-0) •   W 3-1

#6    Rutgers-Newark (6-0-0)
   Sep. 16   Rutgers-Camden (2-4-1) * •   W 2-0

#7    Amherst (1-1-0)
   Sep. 16   Middlebury (4-1-0) * •   L 0-1

#8    Oneonta State (4-0-1)
   Sep. 16   at Vassar (3-2-1) •   T 1-1

#9    John Carroll (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   at Case Western Reserve (3-2-1) •   W 1-0
   Sep. 16   Ohio Wesleyan (3-3-0) •   W 5-4

#10    Haverford (4-1-1)
   Sep. 13   Stevens (4-3-0) •   W 1-0
   Sep. 16   at #14 Johns Hopkins (6-0-0) * •   L 0-2

#11    Kenyon (4-1-2)
   Sep. 13   at Marietta (4-1-1) •   T 0-0
   Sep. 16   Thomas More (3-2-1) •   T 1-1

#12    Messiah (5-1-0)
   Sep. 13   Dickinson (3-2-1) •   W 4-0
   Sep. 15   at #17 Rowan (6-2-0) •   W 3-2

#13    Scranton (5-1-0)
   Sep. 12   at Misericordia (0-6-0) •   W 2-0
   Sep. 16   #5 Lycoming (7-0-0) •   L 1-3

#14    Johns Hopkins (6-0-0)
   Sep. 13   York (Pa.) (2-3-1) •   W 4-1
   Sep. 16   #10 Haverford (4-1-1) * •   W 2-0

#15    Washington and Lee (5-0-1)
   Sep. 12   at Southern Virginia (3-4-0) •   W 7-0
   Sep. 16   Capital (4-2-0) •   W 4-0

#16    St. Thomas (6-1-0)
   Sep. 13   Saint Mary's (Minn.) (4-3-0) * •   W 2-1
   Sep. 16   at St. John's (1-3-1) * •   W 5-1

#17    Rowan (6-2-0)
   Sep. 13   Hood (4-3-0) •   W 5-0
   Sep. 15   #12 Messiah (5-1-0) •   L 2-3
   Sep. 16   New Jersey City (4-2-1) * •   W 6-0

#18    Carnegie Mellon (4-1-0)
   Sep. 15   Westminster (Pa.) (3-4-1) •   W 4-0

#19    Cortland State (6-1-0)
   Sep. 13   Alfred (1-4-0) •   W 3-0
   Sep. 16   St. Lawrence (2-3-1) •   W 3-1

#20    Brandeis (4-1-0)
   Sep. 13   WPI (4-2-0) •   W 2-1
   Sep. 16   Elms (0-5-0) •   W 6-0

#21    Gettysburg (5-0-0)
   Sep. 16   at Washington College (1-5-0) * •   W 3-0

#22    Wartburg (3-1-1)
   Sep. 17   Macalester (4-2-1) •   L 0-1

#23    Lynchburg (4-1-1)
   Sep. 14   Mary Washington (4-1-1) •   L 1-2
   Sep. 17   at Oglethorpe (4-2-0) •   W 1-0

#24    Stockton (6-0-1)
   Sep. 13   at Arcadia (4-1-1) •   T 0-0
   Sep. 16   Kean (3-2-1) * •   W 1-0

#25    Loras (4-2-0)
   Sep. 13   #3 Chicago (6-0-0) •   L 0-3
   Sep. 17   Carthage (3-2-1) •   W 4-0

Thanks for taking the time to do this!!

Ryan Harmanis · September 19, 2017, 09:41:27 PM

Quote from: NEPAFAN on September 19, 2017, 09:38:01 PM
Thanks for taking the time to do this!!

Thanks, but the real credit goes to the top people at D3soccer.com. I just copied/pasted what they'd already compiled.

Shooter McGavin · September 20, 2017, 08:10:29 AM

Big games around the nation today

#2 Chicago @ Wheaton (Ill.)
#9 Mesisah @ York
#15 Haverford @ #18 Scranton
F&M @ #19 Rowan
Leb Val @ #20 Gettysburg
Roger Williams @ Wheaton (Mass.)
Dickinson @ Mary Wash
Wartburg @ St. Olaf
Emory @ Maryville (Tenn.)
Rose-Hulman @ DePauw
Case Western @ Ohio Wesleyan
Loras @ Elmhurst

In bold are the top 3 games to tune into tonight (in my opinion)

bestfancle · September 20, 2017, 08:40:31 AM

The Case at OWU game has huge implications for the Great Lakes Region. Both the teams are slightly on the outside looking in, and this game should clear things up. Prediction. 2-1 Case on a late winner.

rudy · September 21, 2017, 01:02:41 PM

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on September 20, 2017, 08:10:29 AM
Big games around the nation today

#2 Chicago @ Wheaton (Ill.)
#9 Mesisah @ York
#15 Haverford @ #18 Scranton
F&M @ #19 Rowan
Leb Val @ #20 Gettysburg
Roger Williams @ Wheaton (Mass.)
Dickinson @ Mary Wash
Wartburg @ St. Olaf
Emory @ Maryville (Tenn.)
Rose-Hulman @ DePauw
Case Western @ Ohio Wesleyan
Loras @ Elmhurst

In bold are the top 3 games to tune into tonight (in my opinion)

F&M downed 3-0. They are likely going to have to win conference playoffs to get NCAA tournament bid at the rate they are going. Rowan didn't want to lose to another PA team at home...they must have been fired up for this game.

Shooter McGavin · September 22, 2017, 08:27:04 AM

Notable games happening this weekend (Friday-Sunday):

Friday:
#22 Brandeis @ #5 Tufts
#8 Oneonta St @ #14 Cortland St
Grove City @ #13 CMU

Saturday:
Elmhurst @ #2 Chicago
#3 Lycoming @ Case Western
#7 Hopkins @ #20 Gettysburg
F&M @ #15 Haverford
#16 Amherst @ Williams
Montclair @ RUC
Hobart @ Skidmore
Capital @ Thomas More
Etown @ Drew
CNU @ York
Rose-Hulman @ ONU
OWU @ Oberlin

Sunday:
#6 John Carroll @ #13 CMU